Posted on Dec 26, 2006 - 2:21am by John P. in Gadgets, Movies, Must Haves, Reviews
Ahh, toys… the latest one to enter the fold is the Creative Zen Vision W personal media player. This device does just about everything.
But is it any good? Well, read on to find out.
The device was packaged with accessories including earbud headphones, a wall power adapter, a USB cable, a software disc, A/V-out cables, and a felt case.
After unpacking the device I noticed that it is hefty, but not heavy. It weighs 10.5 ounces and though it looks a little plain you can tell that the screen is quality even before you turn it on.
The software installed just fine on my heavily abused XP system and is very simple to use. It includes functions to load songs, video and photos on the device as well as the ability to rip audio CDs. One thing notably missing however was the ability to rip DVDs.
This to me was a glaring omission. How does Creative expect people to get their DVDs into this PMP device? In order to perform this task I had to use some other software. I’ve documented the process of ripping DVDs to your hard drive for transfer to the Zen here. I’ve got two options, one fairly simple but not free, one free but a little more complicated.
Back to the review at hand…
I found Creative’s transfer software to be very simple to use and after loading up some MP3s and videos I immediately plugged in my Bose QuietComfort 2 headphones to take a listen. With these headphones I initially felt the sound quality was a little flat, but then I changed the EQ settings to suit my preference and it sounded fantastic.
I then threw on a movie and was impressed with the sharpness and clarity of the video. I never forgot that I was watching a tiny screen, but I was very, very happy that I hadn’t picked up an iPod. The Zen W’s screen is at least 200% larger and I wouldn’t want it any smaller.
The only thing that I immediately missed is some sort of built in stand for the unit. If you want to set it down to watch it you’ll have to lean it against something, and then it wants to slip. I’m considering making a stand for it myself on my PlasmCAM.
Things I Like:
Things I don’t like:
In order to test the widest range of encoded information I downloaded a bunch of bootlegged movies from the Internet (and then deleted them immediately afterwards of course
). I did this because I can’t possibly create test formats for the wide variety of choices out there.
Formats Tested:
I could go on, but I think you get the picture. I’d say that approximately 90% of the movies downloaded at least worked. A few of them had a glitch or two. The ones that I ripped from my own DVDs, using this method, worked flawlessly.
I had considered every personal media player on the market before picking up the Zen Vision W. Money was truly no object, I just wanted to get one that had a fantastic screen, long battery life and excellent compatibility with a wide range of encoding and formats.
For any amount of money I don’t think you can do better than this media player, and given that you can pick one up for $350-400 it makes the perfect A/V travel companion.
As always, questions and comments are welcome, and if you found this article useful please do me the favor of DIGGing it, bookmarking it with Del.icio.us, or any of your favorite sites from up by the article title.
Have fun!
EDIT: 1/8/2007 I also just added a complete teardown of this device for those that might be interested in upgrading the hard drive.
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EDIT: 7/12/2007 Thanks to Michael we have this picture of the SF Planet Zen W Case w/stand. As he described it:
The kickstand is built separate as a flap in the back. The top cover just throws back and hangs there to keep the weight pulling backwards onto the kickstand.
And when you’re done, the kickstand is magnetic, so it will snap back to the case and not stick out.
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I am hoping to find some answers here. So far, Dell cannot help and Creative cannot help.
I use Windows Vista. Had I known that Creative had not run many software and device driver updates I would have refrained from spending $250.
When I plug in my Zen Vision W, my computer does not recognize that the device is connected. I have tried all of my usb ports and even tried a hub, and none of them recognize that it’s there. I have downloaded all updates for software and drivers but I cannot finish the installation because the player needs to be connected - again, my computer does not show that it’s connected.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
K…
Have you tried disabling any firewalls or other secutiry software you currently have running in case they are blocking communication to/from your USB ports?
Also, the Zen doesn’t show up as a drive in Windows. You need to use the Creative software to access it. I’m assuming you already knew that…
John
I have to disagree John:
(BTW, can you bring back the # for every comment, it makes so easy to refer back to a previous comment, without “cut-and-paste”
A while ago I said:
Comment by George B.
2007-06-10 18:09:56
Please refer to Item # 91 above.
Well, it can see it as a drive! How you ask me?
Open your “ZEN Vision W Media Explorer” and click on “Settings and Information”. Open the “Tools” tab and “tick” the box that says “Show My Player as a Portable Media Device in my Computer”. Click OK or Apply.
Now, everytime you connect your “W” to your computer, you’ll see the little icon “My ZEN” under “My Computer” in your Widows Explorer. Open that guy up and you can move files, rename folders and/or files, delete folder/files…just like any storage drive you ever owned.
Now, I’m sure somewhere buried in the ZEN instructions (???) it says that, but why bother reading the instructions, when you can use the old trail and error approach
George B.
Brighton, Michigan
George,
You are correct. You can use the Zen as a storage device… but of course that method still doesn’t allow you to manipulate the media on it, only the partition that you set up for holding other stuff. I should have been more specific.
I’ll try to work on the comment numbers when I get a chance. It’s this threaded comment plugin for Wordpress that replaced the comment numbers. I still can’t decide if it’s better to have the threaded, paged comments, or just the long string of all the comments on one page. But for posts like this one with over 100 comments I think it’s still better this way.
Did you notice the change, and what are your thoughts since you regularly use it too?
John
I have the Creative Zen Vision W and I have to say I absolutely love it. My only question is about encoding recorded tv programmes for uploading to the Zen. I use TMPGEnc, had all the settings, and had it working fine - then we upgraded to Windows Vista - it still worked fine - then we had to roll back to XP and I lost my settings!!! now I can’t recreate what they were and am having an awful problem with the audio and video being out of sync. Can anyone please tell me what settings I should be using?
Many thanks
Tracy R
Caversfield UK
John,
All I want from a site like this, is a way to find any older posting that would help me with a “now” problem. I don’t now of any easy way to do it.
I think the paged method is good, so one does not have to wait for the download of 120+ posts. I would prefer to see the latest postings first. Assigning a seq. number to each posting would make it easier if a new posting wanted to refer to an older one.
But, any search/grouping of subjects would be ideal, although I don’t see how it can be done easily
As for my “My Zen” issue (see my last posting) it drives me crazy. It works like I described with my machine at home (XP Home), that is I can move file/folders and also rename same, while I cannot do any of the above with my machine at work (XP Pro).
In general, the Zen is very particular in deciding with which machine to do business with. It seems it likes to stay with one machine, not to fool around with many
George B
Brighton, MI
mine freezes sometimes when i wall-plug charge it in foreign countries, but i just hit the reset button and it works fine. Also, if i forget my hidden content password (actually i was trying to get it to work and couldn’t figure it out, i typed in a random password in a mad rage and now i forget) how do i either reset it or get my password? i have all my files backed up
there is no reset button. and you cant reset your password..unless you backdate your zen to factory standards, which i have no clue on doing
how do i reset/retreive my hidden content password?
Oskar,
im not quite sure, but you could always just ad one every time, and see what the number is… ex. 0001, 0002 … and so on… itll take a LOONGGGG time.
if you already know what your pasword is, then where it says “hidden” or ” show” under the player settings, under that, there will be a “change password”
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Another great review.
I was out traveling when the Achos 20GG portable video player came out, I picked one up in Heathrow Airport, it cost a good pile of pennies and it worked for 4-5 days. I never dropped it or mishandled it, it just stopped working.
I live in Asia, and it would be a major pain to FEDEX it back and forth, plus it would probably get lost or taxed on the way back here, so I just let it lie. I have been a little gunshy with these players since.
This one however looks like a great little entertainment center for people on the road, especially the support of all the various codecs we… ehmn I mean “they” use for boot leg movies
Kim:)
Yes Kim, as far as I am concerned this device is unbeatable. Not only does it play back every format of bootleg movies I’ve, er… “people” have encountered, but the picture and sound quality are fantastic.
Add to that the fact that it comes with a cable that allows you to hook it to your TV and you have an instant way to play back downloaded movies on the big screen, or to take them with you to a friend’s house.
I highly recommend the Zen W!
John
John, I am not sure if this was asked, but will it be possible to upgrade the 30 gb device to the 100 gb 1.8 HD? I understand the larger drive is a few mm thicker than the smaller drive.
Any insight would be appreciated. my old 20 gb B&W ipod just broke, and the prices are dropping on the 30gb Zen W’s. thanks!
Um, I’m guessing you didn’t read this entire article because John provided a link to another one he wrote about tearing down the Zen and upgrading the hard drive.
Try scanning the page again. Look for the word EDIT.
I did read both articles. IMO, it’s not clear if the 30 gig will accept the 100 gig replacement drive since they used a 60 gig device for the teardown.
Jason,
Yes, I did previously answer this question in the comments a couple of times, but I know there are a lot of them to look through. The devices are identical whether they come with the 30 or 60gb drives in them. Thus, any of the cases will indeed accommodate the thicker 8mm drives.
Also read about when I upgraded the drive in my unit to 100gb.
Hope that helps.
John
John, thank you for the information, definately appreciated. I picked this up last night at circuity city for $249 and think I am going to like it. Right now I am looking for a good application to convert my media center DVR-MS files. Experimenting with Digital Media Converter 2.78 which seems to do a decent job. Also using CloneDVD Mobile for moving over DVD’s. It does the widescreen DVD’s in 480×272 no problem, but the Zen isn’t happy with a standard 4:3 DVD converted to 364×272, it locks up the player. 320×240 is ok, 720×480 plays perfect as well. It’s odd, because 364×272 seems like it would be the native size to shrink down to for 4:3.
Does anyone recommend a good case? It looks like the one from creative with the stand isn’t much, several negative reviews on it.
Any thoughts on this one? For only $15, it’s worth a try.
http://sfplanet.com/product/VIG018
thanks again for your tutorial.
Well after almost exactly one year my zen w is still alive and kicking, however, the battery that came with it just stopped working….hmmmm Coinscidence, i think not…..
I went ahead and took it apart for kicks…wow the lil hitachi drive is tiny….
I played with the recovery part of it the other day…lets you wipe it out all together…and that includes password…
The only way it would go into recovery mode was to unplug hd, boot it up…then plug hd back in…..
This thing has been left in 100+ degree weather in the sun and cold…still booting just fine……
Ps, mine was one of the first to hit shores here in US.
Now that I think about it, the battery didnt crap out until I updated the firmware 1.00.01 to 1.01.10 or some shit….hmmm
Richie,
about your battery, for my zen vision m, i used to have it plugged in, and chargin while i used it on home speakerss andhtinks, if you keep things charging, or just plugged in while its finished charging for a long time, the battery life goes down, so my zen m used to have a 14 hour bat life, and now it has about a 8, so you might just want a new battery. though, ithink that creative should make a battery like they did for the vision, where its extended time. OR another one, that its just an adapter, that you can put AA or AAA batterys in, so its like a shell, and you can just keep putting batterys in over and over, it would be great
Well - I got the ZEN Vision W 30GB about 2 weeks ago - And sometimes the ZEN stops responding when unpluggin’ the device from computer - all I do is to disconnect the battery and put it back - Now features :
I think CREATIVE could have done better software for this PMP - The main reason I bought it - was because I wanted to see my movies y music videos in a bigger screen - however the software SUCKS! - you can not have video playlist as IPOD does - the buttons are too small ! - Imagine PLAYING THE EAGLES OR PINK FLOYD album ??….
Well other than is nice device with a bad software. I will try to sell it and get the new ARCHOS 605 WIFI 30GB
where is the infrared on the crative zen vision w
sorry, i just realized you can reply to comments, it couldnt be done before,so iw asent used to it
its the little black oval-like thingie above the back button
its the little black oval-like thingie above the back button
I agree…they do need more power options
ALL I know CREATIVE won’t answer technical questions accurately - If you e-mail them..I Think all they do is READ THE MANUAL.
CREATIVE Software is not Vista Compatible either. - So If you want to use their software you will need a computer runnin’ XP - I’m not happy with the software at all - other thing I’ve found out: You won’t be able to convert some files to AVI if you have QUICKTIME 2.2 You need to downgrade this VERSION! - its a PAIN!
And the thing I HATE MOST!! - “CAN NOT CREATE VIDEO PLAYLIST” its a most for MUSIC VIDEOS!
creative might eventually make a patch or something to cover windows vista.
I just use Vista to convert and add to the player from bit torrent…no problems here…also no creative software
Ive even got is showing on xp, vista on my mac using parallels
But I thought Al Gore invented the internet …
I agree with andyee2, you need to have a widescreen video player. It would improve viewing for everyone.
I absolutely loveee this player! Just like in your case, money was no object, I just wanted to get the best suitable player for me. I actually bought an iPod before this and it was a horrible experience! Their software sucks and the screen is way too small. Plus that navigation wheel was driving me crazy. The Zen W has a very nice sized screen and it’s so easy to transfer media into the player. I had an old Creative player before (the B&W version) and I liked that one too because of the easy file transfer system and navigation. I still have trouble getting my videos in from Adobe Premiere, but I’m still learning. I found your review very useful.
Dear John,
Thanks for the awesome review of this player. I just picked mine up yesterday and I love it. I’m having a slight problem. AVI files will play only for about 4-11 seconds then it freezes. What’s happening? I tried removing the file and putting back on still same issue. What would I do?
Good morning all,
So I love(d) my Zen W 60gig. I used it daily on a lot of aspects of my life. But sometime in Dec I seemed to have misplaced it. I have ripped apart my house, call, office.. it Can not be found. So I figured I would just buy a new one. But it looks like Creative is not making them anymore? They are no in stock Anywhere.. they just seem like they are gone from market. Have anyone heard anything about this? I really can’t seem to find a good replacement for this.. I need a nice screen, a big HD, and a card reader slot. All the Archos look great, but without that card reader slot, it is a no go for me.
Also, it seems like the “Pages:” (« 1 2 3 4 5 [6] Show All) links on this page above are not working within FF and IE.
-Jeff
http://www.carabs.com
Sad to report, word I got from Creative is that they are NOT making the Zen Vision anymore, or the docking stations which I never knew existed and cannot find even listed on eBay. Here’s the email I got from Creative when I asked them about a docking station:
“Dear John,
Thank you for reaching us at Creative Email Technical Support. I appreciate the opportunity to assist you. I am sorry for the trouble you having.
I understand that you are wanting to know why there is no docking station for the Zen Vision. The Zen Vision is no longer being manufactured and this is the same for the docking station, and we are out of stock and no longer able to order. As for as the Xdock this is one of the Wireless sound systems that we manufacture and it is designed for the Ipod the other XFI wireless will work with our MP3 players using the line in feature
I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.
If you still require assistance, please reply to this email with any previous correspondence to ensure the quickest and most accurate service.
Best Regards,
Wayne
Technical Support
Creative Labs Americas”
I bought mine on a close-out sale price at Circuit City in December 2007 just before Christmas. Best Buy didn’t carry them at all.
Needless to say, I will be VERY careful not to misplace my Zen Vision W, which I also love. I also use it to record the lectures in my college classes. I have two 1� hour lectures, back to back and the battery on it holds up just fine while recording them. When classmates miss a class, I off-load the lecture and burn it to CD to give them the next time they show up.
I also own a very tiny Creative Nomad Muvo 128mb mp3 player that I use to listen to my Audible.com audio books on.
I love my Creative products and only wish they hung in there with the Zen Vision.
John Lord
p.s. - I found a web page somewhere that a hobbyist described how he opened his Zen Vision and replaced the hard drive with a 1.8″ 100GB drive designed for the iPod and now has probably the worlds only (or at least, first) 100GB Zen Vision W. I probably won’t be doing that since i don’t want to risk breaking my Zen. Besides, the drive costs about what the 60GB Zen did and if I just go buy a used 60GB Zen Vision W, then I’ll own two Zens with a total of 90Gb between them with no risky hardware hacking.