Also, think about how energy can’t be created or destroyed, the Law of Conservation of Energy. How else can black holes be created with supposed infinite density.
How else can the first matter have been created?
Was it always there?
How did time begin?
Can you imagine not thinking anything when you die? How do you view the world? What would it feel like if you had no perspective and time just stopped?
You would have no viewpoint on the world and just go away.
That, I believe, is IMPOSSIBLE.
We are souls and souls go to either heaven or hell.

Of course we wouldn’t care about all the ants on the sidewalk. But God cares about each and every one of us because he is NOT human. We are so we can’t even process each person. God has INFINITE RAM, INFINITE processing power, and INFINITE brainpower and control. He is omnipotent. We can’t even grasp the concept of that.

You say use your brains, of course we can’t believe it because we can’t COMPREHEND it!

Oh, and John, great job setting up a debate. ;)

I believe very strongly that churches exist solely for the purpose of making money. They keep people coming back by spreading guilt and fear.

My 6 year old daughter asked me recently if Santa Claus is real. I looked her in the eyes and said yes he is and he loves you. He knows when you are good and will reward you for being good. I then realized that this is exactly what all the churches in the world are saying to us. They then pass the collection plate around and tell you to give with your hearts for Jesus.

I do not believe in God any more than I believe in Santa Claus. I believe we live in a remarkable universe that can almost entirely be explained by science.

For those bible thumpers out there, picture this… imagine you are the creator of the entire infinite universe. Trillions of planets that likely support life each with billions of living things on them (unless you are Catholic and believe we are at the center of the universe alone). Would you care about the day to day happenings of one individual? Do you as a person care about the ants on the sidewalk?

I consider myself a very intelligent guy; 2 college degrees and a significant amount of knowledge in religion (many types). How can any sane adult believe in an invisible omnipotent being that helps us with our problems. I recall somewhere that we were given free will. If God is medalling in our affairs then it’s not really free will is it.

People, use your brains! There is no God. My life is still complete because I love my family and want to spend as much time enjoying them as I can while I am alive.

the biggest problem with the concept of limitless time is that the 2nd law of thermodynamics suggests that even if time was limitless that matter would lose all its energy anyways. so here perhaps you could suggest that we just happen to live in the right moment in the history of time, but the problem with that is it requires time to be finite because any “right” time would have an infinite amount of time existing before that, which of course is more than enough time for the 2nd law of thermodynamics to run its course. So how are you going to account for the constant reenergization of matter in a universe of limitless time? Perhaps the big bang? but then what about the first big bang, where did that get its energy. I cant accept the idea of an endless cycle because frankly i dont think an infinite regress of actually occurring events is a physical possibility.

so how are you going to account both for the creation of matter and for its energization?

personally i think the creation of matter is a logical impossibility, even for God. this is in part why I find theistic idealism to be the only completely reasonable metaphysics, ala Berkeley.

Do you really think that preaching to these idiots is going to make a difference to them ?

Are you really as stupid, ignorant and bigoted as your comment shows ? Or is it just an act ?

Of all the comments that you made, the last one is the only one that makes sense.

The rest only show profound ignorance.

Regards

AC

Exactly what nuthouse are you housed in ? And how many times did you fail 1st grade ? And “truly” is spelled with one l, not two, just as “mearly” is not a word in the English language, but “nearly ” is.

Regards

AC

You know that ignorance kills more than the sword ? Probably not.

I have been to Jeruselem and thus am somewhat of an expert on this subject of GOD. If there were no greater power than where did all of this come from. It takes only a small amount of thought to realize that it could not have just happened. No matter how many monkeys type in random access to typewriters, then never do you see even a paragraph of logical prose.

Simply put, when you pass, you will see GOD and it will be obvious to you. All of your questions will be answered. Don’t waste your time worrying about it now.

thanks,
Jeremy

I believe you have examined the concept of free will to the point of excess. Your dizzying logic in this case is simply unnecessary.

Just because each person’s intellect is the sum of all of their previous experiences does not mean that every single one of us cannot exercise free will. Furthermore, the fact that our actions are influenced or limited by our emotions and environment makes us no less capable of changing our situation.

Why must you question, “why is the world as it is”? The world simply is. Have you considered the possibility that “good” and “bad” are merely adjectives ascribed by humans regarding “actions” and “reactions”? Things happen, and I react to them. Some times I cause things to happen and others must react.

I am no better than a lion, monkey or flea. We are all functioning organisms reacting to our environment. But I am different because the complexity and range of my actions and reactions is on a scale that is magnitudes beyond what they are capable of, and because I live in a society which has established much more complex rules regarding individual behavior.

Anyway, as interesting of a sidebar as this is, it really doesn’t relate to the topic of this post which is to pursue the concept of the existence of God. Whether or not we have “free will” can in no way be construed as evidence on either side of the argument.

Take care,

John

I appreciate the fact that you believe in God. At the same time, your comments here really do nothing to advance the question “Does God exist”, they only share your beliefs regarding passages of the bible.

I do take exception to the following statement:

I gain nothing by telling you about Christ. I seek no fame or money.

This we all know to be patently false. You are seeking something far more valuable than fame or money – eternal salvation.

No Christian should ever make the claim that they aren’t seeking anything because they have been charged to spread the gospel, and to believe in God, or go to hell. For this reason people have a rationale for suspicion based on the question “what are you getting out of this?”

Atheistic scientists or philosophers however can truly make the claim that they seek to gain nothing by the pursuit of knowledge regarding proving or disproving God, so this is a major hurdle for Creationists to overcome.

John