Comments on: Prius Outdoes Hummer in Environmental Damage

By: greg

greg — Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:44:22 +0000

Prius ($3.25*100,000) = $975,000 vs. the Hummer’s $585,000

SOOOOOoooooo…..they’re the same? I have a great idea. I’m gonna write you a check for $585,000 and you write me a check for $975,000….it’s the same right?

By: greg

greg — Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:37:41 +0000

Yeah…except they only survive for 100,000 miles. So times the price of your little prius by 3, then compare to the hummer.

What is that? $975,000.

By: Jacob

Jacob — Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:52:35 +0000

Something that seems largely ignored within people refutting cthe damage nickel mining causes and the total cost of a prius vs a hummer is the shipping of the nickel for batteries teaversing the globe. While we have been convinced to beleive that cars are single handidly destroying the planet cars barely register a ripple in total greenhouse gases and shipping is the biggest cause of these gases.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Sun, 05 Dec 2010 04:08:47 +0000

I have driven a 2002 Prius for 100,000 miles. I now have 132,000 miles on my Prius. I have had very few problems. The worse problem was to replaced my small battery, which is the size of a motorcycle battery. I still get 48-52 mpg; the best that I have done is 60 mpg. Yes, I take off slower than everybody else, but it is worth it.
I have read much of the Prius vs Hummer report. The flaw in the argument is that the Prius will only last 107,000 mile, which was Toyota’s very conservative estimate. If the Prius just last 130,000, according to this article, it is on par with the Hummer. I expect my Prius to last at least 200,000 miles. By then, I will definitely want to upgrade to the newest model, which does take off faster and gets just as good/better gas mileage.

By: Volt is about to strike - Saving Advice

Volt is about to strike - Saving Advice — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 18:53:35 +0000

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By: aaron

aaron — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:53:17 +0000

PS using the Hummer does not show a bias, not does it show a lack of credability. He simple used the Hummer, a well known and documented environmental nightmare, to show how bad the production of a Prius really is. I think, sir, that you may (especially since you own a Prius) be the biased one in this case. But I understand wanting to stick up for your purchase. There’s a certain psychological event that happens when your beliefs are questioned after having made a large investment. You need to justify them to yourself, because, after all, you wouldn’t have spent all that money and not done as good a thing as you originally thought…would you? So no harm no fowl Jeff, I understand, where and how you’re coming from. I just hope that my comment is read by everyone who will read yours.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Thu, 08 Jul 2010 16:05:40 +0000

Incredibly spotty information here. The article brings up some interesting points, but it’s more like a high school kids paper than a reliable, soundly researched article with enough weight to sway public opinion.

By: NizkorMuch

NizkorMuch — Tue, 15 Jun 2010 20:46:25 +0000

“After reading a few of these posts, here and elsewhere I have come to conclude the following. People who buy support, or otherwise view hybrids favorably, are almost wholly motivated by emotion. ”

So when your facts started looking rather less factual, you went for the ad hominem? Thanks for playing, I think that’s all we needed to see.

By: roger

roger — Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:57:16 +0000

H2 gets about 13mpg, Prius about 48mpg. For 150K miles at 3$/per gallon, prius will save $24,700. in fuel costs, over 8000 gallons of gas. I imagine it is more expensive to ship 8000 gallons of gas halfway around the world than prius battery components for the full turn. The gas difference is also 80 tons of CO2 without shipping. I can’t agree with this author. I urge anyone reading this to calculate for themselves.

By: دليل

دليل — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:09:41 +0000

Hehe… I don’t live in Michigcan or work for GM or any car company. I don’t support the American automobile industry since I think most of their products are garbage. I own only toyota cars and honda bikes….. Regardless of that, for the stated reasons above hybrids are not green nor a viable form of technology.

By: stuart

stuart — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 05:52:20 +0000

The batteries must be replaced every 25k. People who think these vehicles are good for the enviroment should go suck on one the batteries.

By: Gopher

Gopher — Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:11:08 +0000

…Plug the damn thing in your wall?

By: Brad

Brad — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 04:48:39 +0000

Toyota.com says the battery in the toyota PIUS as “nickel-metal hydride batteries” Save the earth, kill blind ignorance.

By: Marcia

Marcia — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:25:19 +0000

they don’t use nickel batteries anymore, and they definitely last waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over 100,000 miles. I’m sure there are other things you missed, but I don’t feel like reading that thoroughly ; )

By: Concerened citizen

Concerened citizen — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:46:23 +0000

Ok the prius batteries are made at a non environmentely freindly plant
their is a dead zone around that alone starts to take the prius down a notch. You can’t say the prius saves money and dosent pollute as much the batteries are shipped on a freighter those run on disel they pollute the earth black smoke comes out the stack lord knows what’s in that. It also takes more to charge a battery than it puts out. The electricty bills will also go up when you plug the damn thing in your wall also they catch on fire easy and if you can’t get out your screwed cause they won’t use the jaws of life cause it will fry the firemen because the electricity flows thru the car and their is no environentely friendly way to get rid of a toxic battery it’s toxic are you going to wave your magic wand and make it un toxic no cause it’s not possible

By: cys

cys — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:51:16 +0000

I am very curious about the math here. $3.25/mile over 100,000 miles translates to $325,000. A brand-new prius cost about $25,000, and 100,000 miles costs about 2200 gallons of gas. Assume $2.50/gl gas, we still have $325,000 – $25,000 – $5500 = $294,500 gap here. I wonder where the $294,500 money goes and who is paying for that? I don’t think maintain a prius for 10 yrs and recycle it can cost $294,500.

By: Dennis MacLeod

Dennis MacLeod — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:57:05 +0000

I don’t know where to start in debunking the erroneous information given in this article. The original news article that this information came from was a complete distortion of the facts at hand.

First Sudbury, Ontario did once have environmental problems but in the last twenty five years it has turned this around and has won numerous awards for its environmental improvements. This clean up was done up long before the Prius was even built.

Second battery recycling is a success story we should be proud of. When batteries are recycled 99% of the battery is reclaimed in an environmentally responsible manner. The materials in a Prius battery are so valuable and in high demand there is no reason that they would ever be deposed of in an improper way.

The energy usage figures are completely distorted to make the results come out. There are Prius that have gone over 300,000 miles with NO major problems or repairs. I would be surprised if any Hummers could say that.

Is the Prius the ultimate answer no? But it is a significant step to a better future.

By: Matthew

Matthew — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:48:56 +0000

then why does the prius only cost $23000 new and the hummer $57000 new, plus if you buy a prius you will save nearly $60000 over 10 years, between vehicle cost and gas savings

By: mobocracy

mobocracy — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:08:08 +0000

The only thing I have to add is this:
H2 Hummer over 100k miles would use 61,000 lbs of fuel (13 miles/gallon) and resulting pollution. I’m not following the 300k miles logic.
The Prius would use 18,000 lbs of fuel – a difference of 43,000 pounds of fuel over 100k miles.
According to http://www.infinitepower.org/calc_carbon.htm – this would be 32,000 pounds of carbon into the atmosphere.
Almost the same as two more Prius – maybe that is were the 300k comes from :)

Mob

By: Todor

Todor — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:51:14 +0000

Yeah …. yeah
but the price of gas still goes up pal :)
I will be glad when it reaches $10 per gallon