Comments on: Tutorial: How to Upgrade the Creative Zen Vision W Hard Drive http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/ Specialization is for Insects. Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:29:02 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: AntonioCarlos http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-53644 AntonioCarlos Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:48:14 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-53644 I have a Creative Zen Vision 30GB hard drive with the Toshiba MK3006GAL 5mm T-type connector with 50 pin. Ask please help where I can buy a 60GB with the same connection type T and 5mm. Thanks I have a Creative Zen Vision 30GB hard drive with the Toshiba MK3006GAL 5mm T-type connector with 50 pin.

Ask please help where I can buy a 60GB with the same connection type T and 5mm.

Thanks

]]> By: Cheryl http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-53515 Cheryl Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:52:13 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-53515 No idea, but would appreciate hearing if you figured it out? I have the same problem with the Vision W, and the Toshiba MK1011GAH. No idea, but would appreciate hearing if you figured it out? I have the same problem with the Vision W, and the Toshiba MK1011GAH.

]]> By: Grapez (NL) http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-51160 Grapez (NL) Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:42:51 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-51160 Hi, today I exchanged my Zen Vision M (60Gb Slim) Seagate HD (harddisk problem) with a new Toshiba MK1231GAL (1.8", 120Gb, 5mm). My problem is that the new HD keeps on coming with the harddisk problem message. I replaced the HD and turned it on. It starts in the recovery mode. Format all returns the harddisk problem message. Trying to reload the firmware doesn't work out either as the program hangs at 90%. I already turned the HD upside down as I'm not 100% sure what the first pin is on the HD. Anybody an idea on how to proceed to get this working? Grapez Hi, today I exchanged my Zen Vision M (60Gb Slim) Seagate HD (harddisk problem) with a new Toshiba MK1231GAL (1.8″, 120Gb, 5mm). My problem is that the new HD keeps on coming with the harddisk problem message.
I replaced the HD and turned it on. It starts in the recovery mode. Format all returns the harddisk problem message. Trying to reload the firmware doesn’t work out either as the program hangs at 90%. I already turned the HD upside down as I’m not 100% sure what the first pin is on the HD. Anybody an idea on how to proceed to get this working? Grapez

]]> By: Kevin http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-50482 Kevin Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:25:34 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-50482 This is a great article and really help me upgrade my Zen. First by extending the confidence to me that it actually can be done. Second by showing me how to do it. However, there are a couple of really important issues that I ran accross. The drive described in the article does not fit in the Zen Vision W 30GB chassis. I bought one and had to return it. That is an 8mm high drive and the 30GB ZEN requires the 5mm drive. I believe that any 5mm drive will work. I bought the Samsung 80GB drive and it worked great. I use Vista 64 and for an unknown reason it would not recognize the USB device in order to install the firmware. I had to connect it an XP PC for it to work. It may just be me. In my case the original drive had crashed so I did not back up before starting. So, once it was formatted and "firmwared" I had to run the sync manager wizard for the file structure to re-occur. After that I was able to copy my media back and I'm once again enjoying my Zen Vision W, even better now with 80GB. Thanks John P. This is a great article and really help me upgrade my Zen. First by extending the confidence to me that it actually can be done. Second by showing me how to do it. However, there are a couple of really important issues that I ran accross. The drive described in the article does not fit in the Zen Vision W 30GB chassis. I bought one and had to return it. That is an 8mm high drive and the 30GB ZEN requires the 5mm drive. I believe that any 5mm drive will work. I bought the Samsung 80GB drive and it worked great. I use Vista 64 and for an unknown reason it would not recognize the USB device in order to install the firmware. I had to connect it an XP PC for it to work. It may just be me. In my case the original drive had crashed so I did not back up before starting. So, once it was formatted and “firmwared” I had to run the sync manager wizard for the file structure to re-occur. After that I was able to copy my media back and I’m once again enjoying my Zen Vision W, even better now with 80GB. Thanks John P.

]]> By: MrMoonbeam http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-50428 MrMoonbeam Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:39:00 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-50428 Any chance I can perform the same HDD upgrade process on a Vision M 30GB (NOT the W)? Any chance I can perform the same HDD upgrade process on a Vision M 30GB (NOT the W)?

]]> By: chris http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-48884 chris Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:54:44 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-48884 i had an hard disc problem and i bouth an new one hard disc it is ... but he said also that i got an hard disc problem so can it be the connector cable? i didn't do anything to it or should i had do something before i connecting it.. i had an hard disc problem and i bouth an new one hard disc it is …
but he said also that i got an hard disc problem so can it be the connector cable?
i didn’t do anything to it or should i had do something before i connecting it..

]]> By: Shearlp http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-48761 Shearlp Sun, 14 Jun 2009 17:12:45 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-48761 thanks! really helpful. I had to change my harddrive, it was making this strange clicking sound when i turned it on. I just replaced it with another 30GB but soon I want to upgrade to 100GB. If only my Creative mediasource could recognize it now!! thanks! really helpful. I had to change my harddrive, it was making this strange clicking sound when i turned it on. I just replaced it with another 30GB but soon I want to upgrade to 100GB. If only my Creative mediasource could recognize it now!!

]]> By: hakan http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-48215 hakan Thu, 21 May 2009 17:34:06 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-48215 Thanks you are brilliant! Thanks you are brilliant!

]]> By: hakan http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-48214 hakan Thu, 21 May 2009 17:32:48 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-48214 Harika bence thanks Harika bence thanks

]]> By: sarki dinle http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-47041 sarki dinle Wed, 01 Apr 2009 00:01:07 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-47041 thanks thanks

]]> By: Jerryoffences http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-46991 Jerryoffences Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:41:45 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-46991 Hello, Today I replaced my Seagtae 60Gb harddrive - Zen Vision W 60gb slim version, with the Toshiba 80gb MK8025GAL - 5mm tickness - works great no sanding, but take care with disable the wires will brake in a second. Rgrds Jerry form Holland Hello,

Today I replaced my Seagtae 60Gb harddrive – Zen Vision W 60gb slim version,
with the Toshiba 80gb MK8025GAL – 5mm tickness – works great no sanding, but take care with disable the wires will brake in a second.

Rgrds

Jerry form Holland

]]> By: Eric http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-46748 Eric Mon, 16 Mar 2009 02:01:04 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-46748 zen-w was damaged of hardisk so that do you show me the way of using ZIP adaptor to converte to CF card slot in my Zen W 60G . what kinds of CF cards can support in the unit , for instance , 512M , 4G, 8G .....? zen-w was damaged of hardisk so that do you show me the way of using ZIP adaptor to converte to CF card slot in my Zen W 60G . what kinds of CF cards can support in the unit , for instance , 512M , 4G, 8G …..?

]]> By: Mark http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-46596 Mark Sun, 08 Mar 2009 07:09:05 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-46596 I have two W's and both have died on me if i buy a new drive for them can i get them up and running again? I have two W’s and both have died on me if i buy a new drive for them can i get them up and running again?

]]> By: Brian B. http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-46462 Brian B. Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:10:02 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-46462 After some careful scrutiny of you posted pics (very nice detail, btw), it looks like there may be two different Vision W 60GB cases. In the pic, your AV port (off to the right) looks like it's only about 1mm or so from the drive cushioning. On my unit, when the HD is in, there's a good 1/4 to 3/8 of an inch between the drive and the backside of the AV port. Also, if I take my drive, put the blue cushioning on, and place it in the drive cover (the sheet metal casing that had to be removed), it clearly sticks us a 1mm or so out of the drive cover. This means that when you attempt to rebuild the unit, the drive cover screw holes, don't fit back down on the sytem board of the unit to screw in. So my next question is, does anyone know of a 5mm drive that they know works with the Zen Vision W (don't care if it's the same 60GB size I had or an upgrade, just want something that works). After some careful scrutiny of you posted pics (very nice detail, btw), it looks like there may be two different Vision W 60GB cases. In the pic, your AV port (off to the right) looks like it’s only about 1mm or so from the drive cushioning. On my unit, when the HD is in, there’s a good 1/4 to 3/8 of an inch between the drive and the backside of the AV port. Also, if I take my drive, put the blue cushioning on, and place it in the drive cover (the sheet metal casing that had to be removed), it clearly sticks us a 1mm or so out of the drive cover. This means that when you attempt to rebuild the unit, the drive cover screw holes, don’t fit back down on the sytem board of the unit to screw in.

So my next question is, does anyone know of a 5mm drive that they know works with the Zen Vision W (don’t care if it’s the same 60GB size I had or an upgrade, just want something that works).

]]> By: Brian B. http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-46453 Brian B. Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:39:40 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-46453 That's what you get for accidentally hitting enter. Anyway, I was about to say, I wonder if there are 2 different case styles/sizes. I have an 8mm drive I just got in and it does not fit in the case without bowing the back. The drive that came out is a Seagate ST760211DE. A 5mm drive. Now I gotta see if I can send back the drive. That’s what you get for accidentally hitting enter.

Anyway,

I was about to say, I wonder if there are 2 different case styles/sizes. I have an 8mm drive I just got in and it does not fit in the case without bowing the back. The drive that came out is a Seagate ST760211DE. A 5mm drive. Now I gotta see if I can send back the drive.

]]> By: Brian B. http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-46452 Brian B. Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:35:53 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-46452 John, John,

]]> By: eric http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-46447 eric Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:53:48 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-46447 may i have change to 80GB of other brand new hardisk ? may i have change to 80GB of other brand new hardisk ?

]]> By: Jay G. http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-46445 Jay G. Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:12:30 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-46445 Hello All, I live in England and for some reason the Toshiba drive referred to is not carried by any vendors here. Is there another drive you could suggest ? My hard drive has failed, when I opened up my Zen VisionW, I found a Seagate Lyrion ST18.1 ST760211DE 60gb drive. This would be a good opportunity for me to increase the capacity of my drive.....so.....any suggestions ? Many Thanks Jay Hello All,
I live in England and for some reason the Toshiba drive referred to is not carried by any vendors here. Is there another drive you could suggest ? My hard drive has failed, when I opened up my Zen VisionW, I found a Seagate Lyrion ST18.1 ST760211DE 60gb drive. This would be a good opportunity for me to increase the capacity of my drive…..so…..any suggestions ?
Many Thanks
Jay

]]> By: John P. http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-46424 John P. Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:10:27 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-46424 Greg, I have no idea what went wrong in your install, but the case will indeed fit either the 5 or 8mm thick drive. It is the exact same case for either the 30 or 60gb versions. I show the photos, I've answered this question many times, and others have done it too. All I can suggest is that you trim the blue rubber gasket and put it back in. I assure you, it fit when I did it, and it's been in the device now for well over a year and still going strong. John Greg,

I have no idea what went wrong in your install, but the case will indeed fit either the 5 or 8mm thick drive. It is the exact same case for either the 30 or 60gb versions. I show the photos, I’ve answered this question many times, and others have done it too. All I can suggest is that you trim the blue rubber gasket and put it back in. I assure you, it fit when I did it, and it’s been in the device now for well over a year and still going strong.

John

]]> By: Greg http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-46419 Greg Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:06:29 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-46419 Warning!!! I just tried to fit the 100GB Toshiba MK1011GAH drive into my 30Gb Zen Vision W and it does NOT fit! The original Hitachi 30Gb drive uses a single platter and is only 5mm thick. The 100Gb Toshiba uses two platters and is 8mm thick. There is not enough room in the Zen W case to fit this thicker drive even when you completely remove the blue shock-absorbing rubber from around the drive - it's still 1.4mm too thick. You cannot get the back cover on without seriously bowing the cover and consequently put a lot of pressure on the motherboard - something I'd never do. In addition, all the 100Gb Toshiba drives seem to come with a LIF connector and not the ZIF type connector on the original Hitachi drive. I had to really force the ribbon cable into the LIF connector slot to get it in. I'm not sure if they've change the Toshiba MK1011GAH drive since this article was written but I can definitely say the 100GB Toshiba MK1011GAH drive I bought and tried to install in February 2009 does NOT work. If I had to do it all over again, I'd make sure whatever drive I chose had dimensions of 71mmx54mmx5mm (LxWxH) with a 40pin ZIF connector. Warning!!! I just tried to fit the 100GB Toshiba MK1011GAH drive into my 30Gb Zen Vision W and it does NOT fit! The original Hitachi 30Gb drive uses a single platter and is only 5mm thick. The 100Gb Toshiba uses two platters and is 8mm thick. There is not enough room in the Zen W case to fit this thicker drive even when you completely remove the blue shock-absorbing rubber from around the drive – it’s still 1.4mm too thick. You cannot get the back cover on without seriously bowing the cover and consequently put a lot of pressure on the motherboard – something I’d never do.

In addition, all the 100Gb Toshiba drives seem to come with a LIF connector and not the ZIF type connector on the original Hitachi drive. I had to really force the ribbon cable into the LIF connector slot to get it in. I’m not sure if they’ve change the Toshiba MK1011GAH drive since this article was written but I can definitely say the 100GB Toshiba MK1011GAH drive I bought and tried to install in February 2009 does NOT work. If I had to do it all over again, I’d make sure whatever drive I chose had dimensions of 71mmx54mmx5mm (LxWxH) with a 40pin ZIF connector.

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