Comments on: Tutorial: How to Upgrade the Creative Zen Vision W Hard Drive http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/ Specialization is for Insects. Fri, 25 May 2012 10:45:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: TT http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/comment-page-15/#comment-103566 TT Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:57:01 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-103566 Hi, I was wanting some advice on upgrading my Zen Vision W. Currently the 30Gig and just to small. Do you know how many pins the ZIF drive is in these? 40pin socket? Really need help with the pin configuration so I know what drives are suitable. Would either of the drives work below - US $134.56 - MK2431GAH 1.8" 240GB ZIF/PATA F Macbook air IPOD&MBA rev.A Hard drive Dimensions - Hight - 7.874mm Width - 54.102mm Depth - 71.12mm Weight - 58.96grms US $61.59 - 32GB 1.8" ZIF 40 Pin SSD HDD MLC Solid State Disk Fr Dell D420 D430 HP - (The SSD would just be to see how it run and if it could extend playback time, not so much for more space) Size - 72 x 55 x 5mm Weight - 35g Would a solid state drive work in these at all??? Link for screens also, they have a few different things aftermarket - (Shop around, I'm sure there are better prices, just the only page I looked at so far. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Creative-ZEN-Vision-M-30gb-60GB-LCD-TFT-Screen-New-/400118935991?pt=Other_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item5d28f271b7 Hi, I was wanting some advice on upgrading my Zen Vision W. Currently the 30Gig and just to small. Do you know how many pins the ZIF drive is in these? 40pin socket? Really need help with the pin configuration so I know what drives are suitable.

Would either of the drives work below -

US $134.56 – MK2431GAH 1.8″ 240GB ZIF/PATA F Macbook air IPOD&MBA rev.A Hard drive
Dimensions –
Hight – 7.874mm
Width – 54.102mm
Depth – 71.12mm
Weight – 58.96grms

US $61.59 – 32GB 1.8″ ZIF 40 Pin SSD HDD MLC Solid State Disk Fr Dell D420 D430 HP – (The SSD would just be to see how it run and if it could extend playback time, not so much for more space)
Size – 72 x 55 x 5mm
Weight – 35g

Would a solid state drive work in these at all???

Link for screens also, they have a few different things aftermarket – (Shop around, I’m sure there are better prices, just the only page I looked at so far.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Creative-ZEN-Vision-M-30gb-60GB-LCD-TFT-Screen-New-/400118935991?pt=Other_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item5d28f271b7

]]> By: Ein http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/comment-page-15/#comment-92597 Ein Tue, 27 Sep 2011 22:08:35 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-92597 After several years of faithful service, my Zen had a hard drive failure. I used your method and the drive mentioned (now an even 100USD from RR) and it lives once more! Thank you for this very helpful tutorial! Although, I will second what was said earlier: Remove the EMI shield. Otherwise you risk straining the other components. After several years of faithful service, my Zen had a hard drive failure. I used your method and the drive mentioned (now an even 100USD from RR) and it lives once more! Thank you for this very helpful tutorial!

Although, I will second what was said earlier: Remove the EMI shield. Otherwise you risk straining the other components.

]]> By: Chris http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/comment-page-15/#comment-92395 Chris Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:08:46 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-92395 I dug my Zen Vision W 60GB out of storage. The HDD failed years ago. Has anyone heard of an adapter to install an SD card in place of the HDD. I dug my Zen Vision W 60GB out of storage. The HDD failed years ago. Has anyone heard of an adapter to install an SD card in place of the HDD.

]]> By: michele http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/comment-page-15/#comment-91093 michele Sun, 04 Sep 2011 19:43:51 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-91093 Please can you help me to find a cable to connect the hardisk to a creative zen vision ? Please can you help me to find a cable to connect the hardisk to a creative zen vision ?

]]> By: Ed http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/comment-page-15/#comment-86052 Ed Mon, 30 May 2011 13:29:50 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-86052 Have just upgraded to the 100 gig toshiba drive, (the existing drive failed/clicking), the drive is thicker and the cover wouldn't fit! Solution, I machined the rear stainless cover and the plastic rear case so the drive neatly protrudes against the battery, the rubber dampening has been included so the drive will have some protection against the PCB. The Result: 100 Gig of zen vision W still working great and all it cost was $70 (Second hand drive from Dell Laptop). At this price I can afford at least 12 months and if it dies I'll shop for another media player after that. Thanks for the Information John, It's great when Knowledge is shared. Cheers. Have just upgraded to the 100 gig toshiba drive, (the existing drive failed/clicking), the drive is thicker and the cover wouldn’t fit! Solution, I machined the rear stainless cover and the plastic rear case so the drive neatly protrudes against the battery, the rubber dampening has been included so the drive will have some protection against the PCB.
The Result:
100 Gig of zen vision W still working great and all it cost was $70 (Second hand drive from Dell Laptop).
At this price I can afford at least 12 months and if it dies I’ll shop for another media player after that. Thanks for the Information John, It’s great when Knowledge is shared.
Cheers.

]]> By: Duwain Hunt http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/comment-page-15/#comment-82651 Duwain Hunt Fri, 22 Apr 2011 03:09:28 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-82651 I too would like to know the brand and model number of a Zif hard drive that will work in a Creative Zen W so I can upgrade mine? I too would like to know the brand and model number of a Zif hard drive that will work in a Creative Zen W so I can upgrade mine?

]]> By: Danny http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/comment-page-15/#comment-81574 Danny Mon, 04 Apr 2011 05:50:33 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-81574 hey guys i got in a horrific wreck a few years back and my zen vision w was on the dash when it happened and it went into the water with the rest of the truck, i dried it out and it wouldnt boot so i tried booting it in safe mode menu and it came on just fine but when i try and format the drive ect. it freezes.. so i figure i fucked up the hard drive and now learning i can replace it i was wondering if anyone knows all the types and sizes (GB) of drives that will work with it? i know its alot to ask but if its as simple as any ATA-7 1.8" zif drive it would be badass. thanks, Danny hey guys i got in a horrific wreck a few years back and my zen vision w was on the dash when it happened and it went into the water with the rest of the truck, i dried it out and it wouldnt boot so i tried booting it in safe mode menu and it came on just fine but when i try and format the drive ect. it freezes.. so i figure i fucked up the hard drive and now learning i can replace it i was wondering if anyone knows all the types and sizes (GB) of drives that will work with it? i know its alot to ask but if its as simple as any ATA-7 1.8″ zif drive it would be badass.

thanks,
Danny

]]> By: Dan http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/comment-page-15/#comment-78503 Dan Wed, 02 Mar 2011 06:24:39 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-78503 Saw a couple of hard drives made by Samsung, which I believe will work with the Zen Vision W Slim. However, I also saw a couple with the Apple logo. Should we be avoiding that re: hdd firmware issue? Saw a couple of hard drives made by Samsung, which I believe will work with the Zen Vision W Slim. However, I also saw a couple with the Apple logo. Should we be avoiding that re: hdd firmware issue?

]]> By: allen http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/comment-page-6/#comment-69352 allen Thu, 02 Dec 2010 01:31:54 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-69352 I also ruined zif connector on zen w, Do you have any idea where I can get a new one. I also ruined zif connector on zen w, Do you have any idea where I can get a new one.

]]> By: midus http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/comment-page-14/#comment-62190 midus Mon, 21 Jun 2010 16:39:18 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-62190 did you manage to get this to work or did you send it back? I'm facing the same problem with my Creative Zen Vision W - HDD died. Everything in ebay seems to list only for iPOD. Have narrowed down several 5mm drives but some posts seem to indicate that either there's a firmware issue on the HDDs that won't allow it to format properly in the Zen Vision W or the HDDs are encrypted only for iPODs. Can those who managed to replace the drive please help all those people here? If you tried a HDD and it didn't work, please post too. Thank you in advance! did you manage to get this to work or did you send it back?

I’m facing the same problem with my Creative Zen Vision W – HDD died. Everything in ebay seems to list only for iPOD.

Have narrowed down several 5mm drives but some posts seem to indicate that either there’s a firmware issue on the HDDs that won’t allow it to format properly in the Zen Vision W or the HDDs are encrypted only for iPODs.

Can those who managed to replace the drive please help all those people here?

If you tried a HDD and it didn’t work, please post too.

Thank you in advance!

]]> By: midus http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/comment-page-14/#comment-62189 midus Mon, 21 Jun 2010 16:36:01 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-62189 Did you manage to get the MK1231GAL to work? Or what drive did you manage replace it with? Did you manage to get the MK1231GAL to work? Or what drive did you manage replace it with?

]]> By: Andrew http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/comment-page-14/#comment-61572 Andrew Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:36:37 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-61572 I have attempted to replace my failed 60GB hd with the 120GB Toshiba MK1231GAL, however I cannot format the drive or replace the firmware without a Hard Disk Problem message. Previously I was getting a "Hard Drive Error" message on my old drive. I need to decide if I am going to send this drive back for a refund in the next few days depending if I can ultimately use this drive or not. Please help!!! I have attempted to replace my failed 60GB hd with the 120GB Toshiba MK1231GAL, however I cannot format the drive or replace the firmware without a Hard Disk Problem message. Previously I was getting a “Hard Drive Error” message on my old drive. I need to decide if I am going to send this drive back for a refund in the next few days depending if I can ultimately use this drive or not. Please help!!!

]]> By: Ricky http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/comment-page-14/#comment-61082 Ricky Sat, 29 May 2010 15:55:22 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-61082 Salve il mio Creative Zen Vision W mi dice harddisk problem infatti hdd non girava più allora io ho sostituito con un altro hdd NUOVO Toshiba MK1231GAL questo lo senti che gira e funziona ma il messaggio harddisk problem c'é ancora e non riesco fare l'aggiornamento e possibile avere il vostro aiuto io abito a Padova Italia Grazie --------------------------------------- Hi mine Creative Zen Vision W tells me harddisk problem in fact hdd it didn't turn thener me I have replaced with another New hdd Toshiba MK1231GAL this you feel him/it that it turns and it works but the message harddisk problem there is still and I doesn't succeed to make the updating and possible have your help I live in Padua Italy Thanks Salve il mio Creative Zen Vision W mi dice harddisk problem infatti hdd non girava più allora io ho sostituito con un altro hdd NUOVO Toshiba MK1231GAL questo lo senti che gira e funziona ma il messaggio harddisk problem c’é ancora e non riesco fare l’aggiornamento e possibile avere il vostro aiuto io abito a Padova Italia Grazie

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Hi mine Creative Zen Vision W tells me harddisk problem in fact hdd it didn’t turn thener me I have replaced with another New hdd Toshiba MK1231GAL this you feel him/it that it turns and it works but the message harddisk problem there is still and I doesn’t succeed to make the updating and possible have your help I live in Padua Italy Thanks

]]> By: seotoy http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/comment-page-14/#comment-60873 seotoy Tue, 25 May 2010 09:21:04 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-60873 Very interesting post - I'm definitely going to bookmark you! Thank you for your info Very interesting post – I’m definitely going to bookmark you! Thank you for your info

]]> By: Ricky http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/comment-page-13/#comment-60847 Ricky Mon, 24 May 2010 20:30:51 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-60847 Salve sei riuscito risolvere il Problema con HDD Toshiba MK1231GAL Creative Zen Vision W e farlo funzionare . Grazie Ricky Italy --------------------------------------- Salutes you have succeeded to resolve the Problem with Creative HDD Toshiba MK1231GAL Zen Vision W and to make him/it work. Thanks Ricky Italy Salve sei riuscito risolvere il Problema con HDD Toshiba MK1231GAL Creative Zen Vision W e farlo funzionare .
Grazie Ricky Italy

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Salutes you have succeeded to resolve the Problem with Creative HDD Toshiba MK1231GAL Zen Vision W and to make him/it work.
Thanks Ricky Italy

]]> By: Paul Khalil http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/comment-page-14/#comment-60354 Paul Khalil Fri, 07 May 2010 08:38:57 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-60354 how can i add the arabic langauge to my zen vision w. thansk how can i add the arabic langauge to my zen vision w. thansk

]]> By: Dinesh http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/comment-page-14/#comment-60025 Dinesh Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:21:07 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-60025 hi I have bought a kingspec ssd 32GB ZIF. I am not able to install it into my creative vision W. could you help me out please Thank you Dinesh hi

I have bought a kingspec ssd 32GB ZIF. I am not able to install it into my creative vision W. could you help me out please

Thank you
Dinesh

]]> By: Cheryl http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/comment-page-13/#comment-58944 Cheryl Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:01:32 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-58944 My update: I have a Creative Zen Vision W that originally came with the Seagate ST760211DE 60Gb. It is a slim version. I tried the Toshiba MK1011GAH, and it didn't work. Too fat at 8mm. Then I tried the Toshiba MK8022GAA 80Gb, and it didn't work either. Right size, but proprietary to the Apple iPod Classic gen 6 video. It uses an extended/encrypted command set which makes it useless in any other device. So then I got a Samsung HS081HA 80Gb. This works! When reloading the firmware the player hangs and the software says the update failed. But just leave the player in. It will eventually restart itself, and should be working fine :) My update:

I have a Creative Zen Vision W that originally came with the Seagate ST760211DE 60Gb. It is a slim version.
I tried the Toshiba MK1011GAH, and it didn’t work. Too fat at 8mm.
Then I tried the Toshiba MK8022GAA 80Gb, and it didn’t work either. Right size, but proprietary to the Apple iPod Classic gen 6 video. It uses an extended/encrypted command set which makes it useless in any other device.
So then I got a Samsung HS081HA 80Gb. This works! When reloading the firmware the player hangs and the software says the update failed. But just leave the player in. It will eventually restart itself, and should be working fine :)

]]> By: Fab http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/comment-page-14/#comment-57350 Fab Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:10:24 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-57350 Hi Zen W 30gb upgrade with Toshiba MK1231GAL (5mm) , Harddisk problem message, impossible to reload firmware, question : LIf or ZIf for this HD ? very difficult to get it in the cable into the LIF connector slot Hi
Zen W 30gb upgrade with Toshiba MK1231GAL (5mm) , Harddisk problem message, impossible to reload firmware, question : LIf or ZIf for this HD ? very difficult to get it in the cable into the LIF connector slot

]]> By: MG http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/comment-page-14/#comment-57083 MG Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:18:53 +0000 http://onemansblog.com/2007/07/20/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-the-creative-zen-vision-w-hard-drive/#comment-57083 I just ordered the Toshiba MK1231GAL. It is 5mm thick and has the ZIF connector. I'll let you guys know when I change the drive whether it works. I just ordered the Toshiba MK1231GAL.
It is 5mm thick and has the ZIF connector.
I’ll let you guys know when I change the drive whether it works.

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