Independent Comparison of Democratic vs. Republican Platforms

Barack Obama
John P.

Republican vs DemocratFolks, I’m neither a Democrat, nor a Republican. But my mom asked me to give her an unbiased, factual rundown on the political platforms – so what my mother wants, my mother gets! Here you go Mom…

I’m making the presumption that the two candidates who are going to actually be running for President are Barack Obama, and John McCain. So, below I’ve taken the liberty of narrowing down all the data to these two guys. What you need to do is line up as many of your political ideal matches and then you can rationally choose who you are voting for.

Here are the candidates views on a variety of issues:

Issue Barack Obama
Barack Obama
John McCain
John McCain
Abortion is a woman’s right Strongly Favors Opposes
Require hiring more women & minorities Strongly Favors Favors
Same-sex domestic partnership benefits Strongly Favors Favors
Teacher-led prayer in public schools Opposes Favors
Death Penalty Opposes Strongly Favors
Mandatory Three Strikes sentencing laws Opposes Strongly Favors
Absolute right to gun ownership Strongly Opposes Strongly Favors
More federal funding for health coverage Favors Favors
Privatize Social Security Strongly Opposes Strongly Favors
Parents choose schools via vouchers No opinion Strongly Favors
Replace coal & oil with alternatives Strongly Favors Favors
Drug use is immoral: enforce laws against it Opposes Strongly Favors
Allow churches to provide welfare services Favors Strongly Favors
Repeal tax cuts on wealthy Strongly Favors Opposes
Illegal immigrants earn citizenship Strongly Favors Favors
Support & expand free trade Opposes Strongly Favors
Expand the armed forces Favors Favors
Stricter limits on political campaign funds Strongly Favors Strongly Favors
The Patriot Act harms civil liberties Strongly Favors Strongly Opposes
US out of Iraq Favors Strongly Opposes

There are independent organizations that rate the candidates based upon their voting records. The candidates have to have enough votes in a particular area to actually get rated, but here are the ones I’m aware of:

Ratings Barack Obama
Barack Obama
John McCain
John McCain
HRC rating (Gay Rights) 89% 33%
ACLU rating (Civil Rights) 0%
NAACP Rating (Affirmative Action) 100% 7%
NCJA rating (Criminal Justice) 75% 85%
NEA rating (Public Education) 45%
CAF rating (Energy Independence) 100% 17%
LCV rating (Environment) 53%
Christian Coalition rating (Pro-family) 83%
APHA rating (Health Care) 25%
USBC rating (Close Borders) 8% 18%
AU record (Church-State Separation) 100% 33%
CTJ rating (Progressive Taxation) 100% 50%

Barack Obama is a Hard-Core Liberal.
Obama is Liberal

John McCain is a Populist-Leaning Conservative.
McCain is Conservative

All of the data here has come from a direct comparison of records as reported by Here is John McCain’s page, and Barack Obama’s.

They also have a VoteMatch quiz you can take which tells you which candidate you most closely match up with philosophically. Interestingly, I had a 48% match with Obama and a 30% match with McCain.


  1. alan hyche says

    one may consider all you left wing liberals idiots, you must also agree with church and state separation, yet probably sit in service on Sunday morning, Ask GOD if this is alright?

    • Cassandra says

      Awesome contribution considering the current ‘state’ of religious affairs within your fair country :O) Always wondered what difference these leaders really made while hoping for democratic justice.

      Especially as a female who was only recently even allowed to vote. I do my part to do so in an informed fashion thanking those who made this right a possibility for me – no thanks to the church whatsoever!!

  2. Bill Aden says

    Personally, I think the government should stay out of it. Abortion is an effective method of ending a unhealthy or unwanted pregnancy (Rape, Molestation, etc). I fear the reprocussions of banning legal and safe abortions far outway the current “side effects”. Personally, I wish everyone was born steril and had to have surgery in order to have children. Could you imagine a world where only responsible adults had children?

    • Cassandra says

      Bill, Had to say something – I thought that I was the only one that felt this way . forget about marriage licences – pointless and unnecessary .. lol!! I just always thought that deciding who was ‘responsible’ enough to become sterile would become problematic ;o(

  3. gofyourself says

    I am sixteen my girl friend is about to have are kid i would not kill a baby because of what i have done to a girl what if your mom killed you when you were inside her you would not be here

    • David says

      Yeah, but if you were never here, you would never have been able to even be upset about it. You would have no remembrance of it.

  4. colton hunter says

    You are not doing it to your body you are doing it to a baby what if your parents had one when you were a kid you would not be here

  5. Paola says

    Ok. I see both point of view but here it comes from a girl WHO HAD AN ABORTION 4 months ago. I’m major in Sociology and hopefully soon upcoming Social Worker. I believe I have the right to do what ever I want with my body, People will always judge me for killing a life but there is no one who can be harder on me THEN myself!, I know all of us as humans should take responsibility for our own actions but what do you think is better bring a baby into the world knowing you have nothing to offer or progress in life, build a form of living for a baby who won’t be out in the streets homeless, hungry and neglected? EVERYONE is entitle to their own opinion but before saying anything that might hurt or offend some one who made the best decision for them SELVES… think and stop judging.

    • Megan says

      There is no excuse anyone can have for not being able to provide for a child, go to school, get a job and work long hours. Do you see how many people make it work, the people that don’t make it work don’t try or care. Also if you really can’t make it at least have the baby and give it up for adoption. I think the only reasons a baby should ever be KILLED would be if the pregnancy was expected to be fatal for the mother.

    • Cassandra says

      Sorry Megan,
      Though I have seen people ‘trying’ to ‘make it work’ the end result is more often than not: unprepared parents raising equally unprepared children. The people that are given the choice prevent themselves and their children from potentially becoming dysfunctional burdens on society …

      Pregnancy can be ‘fatal’ on so many different levels. I appreciate that adoption should be considered an option, but can imagine that raising a child ‘within us’ without support (and the repercussions) are just as difficult as raising one alone after it is born, after which the despair concerning what cannot be provided must be immense.

      Just the observations of one individual living in what I consider to be ‘the projects’ from wherein I draw these conclusions.

  6. Lacee says

    yeah pretty much not what its saying lol if you are closeminded to believe exactly what you read and how you read it, you deserve to think obama wants to kill babies : )

  7. Independent says

    Sorry Doug and Robert, but David is right on this. But here some documented facts.

    Events that solely occurred on command of church authorities or were committed in the name of Christianity. (List incomplete)

    Ancient Pagans

    *As soon as Christianity was legal (315), more and more pagan temples
    were destroyed by Christian mob. Pagan priests were killed.

    *Between 315 and 6th century thousands of pagan believers were slain.

    *Examples of destroyed Temples the Sanctuary of Aesculap in Aegaea,
    the Temple of Aphrodite in Golgatha, Aphaka in Lebanon, the

    *Christian priests such as Mark of Arethusa or Cyrill of Heliopolis
    were famous as “temple destroyer.” [DA468] *Pagan services became
    punishable by death in 356. [DA468]

    *Christian Emperor Theodosius (408-450) even had children executed,
    because they had been playing with remains of pagan statues. [DA469]

    According to Christian chroniclers he “followed meticulously all
    Christian teachings…”

    *In 6th century pagans were declared void of all rights.

    *In the early fourth century the philosopher Sopatros was executed on
    demand of Christian authorities. [DA466]

    *The world famous female philosopher Hypatia of Alexandria was torn to
    pieces with glass fragments by a hysterical Christian mob led by a
    Christian minister named Peter, in a church, in 415.


    *Emperor Karl (Charlemagne) in 782 had 4500 Saxons, unwilling to
    convert to Christianity, beheaded. [DO30]

    *Peasants of Steding (Germany) unwilling to pay suffocating church
    taxes between 5,000 and 11,000 men, women and children slain
    5/27/1234 near Altenesch/Germany. [WW223]

    *Battle of Belgrad 1456 80,000 Turks slaughtered. [DO235]

    *15th century Poland 1019 churches and 17987 villages plundered by
    Knights of the Order. Victims unknown. [DO30]

    *16th and 17th century Ireland. English troops “pacified and
    civilized” Ireland, where only Gaelic “wild Irish”, “unreasonable
    beasts lived without any knowledge of God or good manners, in common
    of their goods, cattle, women, children and every other thing.” One of
    the more successful soldiers, a certain Humphrey Gilbert, half-brother
    of Sir Walter Raleigh, ordered that “the heddes of all those (of what
    sort soever thei were) which were killed in the daie, should be cutte
    off from their bodies… and should bee laied on the ground by eche
    side of the waie”, which effort to civilize the Irish indeed caused
    “greate terrour to the people when thei sawe the heddes of their dedde
    fathers, brothers, children, kinsfolke, and freinds on the grounde”.

    Tens of thousands of Gaelic Irish fell victim to the carnage. [SH99,

    Crusades (1095-1291)

    *First Crusade 1095 on command of pope Urban II. [WW11-41]

    *Semlin/Hungary 6/24/96 thousands slain. Wieselburg/Hungary 6/12/96
    thousands. [WW23] *9/9/96-9/26/96 Nikaia, Xerigordon (then turkish),
    thousands respectively. [WW25-27]

    *Until Jan 1098 a total of 40 capital cities and 200 castles conquered
    (number of slain unknown) [WW30]

    *After 6/3/98 Antiochia (then turkish) conquered, between 10,000 and
    60,000 slain. 6/28/98 100,000 Turks (incl. women & children) killed.

    Here the Christians “did no other harm to the women found in [the
    enemy’s] tents – save that they ran their lances through their
    bellies,” according to Christian chronicler Fulcher of Chartres.

    *Marra (Maraat an-numan) 12/11/98 thousands killed. Because of the
    subsequent famine “the already stinking corpses of the enemies were
    eaten by the Christians” said chronicler Albert Aquensis. [WW36]

    *Jerusalem conquered 7/15/1099 more than 60,000 victims (jewish,
    muslim, men, women, children). [WW37-40]

    (In the words of one witness “there [in front of Solomon’s temple]
    was such a carnage that our people were wading ankle-deep in the blood
    of our foes”, and after that “happily and crying for joy our people
    marched to our Saviour’s tomb, to honour it and to pay off our debt of

    *The Archbishop of Tyre, eye-witness, wrote “It was impossible to
    look upon the vast numbers of the slain without horror; everywhere lay
    fragments of human bodies, and the very ground was covered with the
    blood of the slain. It was not alone the spectacle of headless bodies
    and mutilated limbs strewn in all directions that roused the horror of
    all who looked upon them. Still more dreadful was it to gaze upon the
    victors themselves, dripping with blood from head to foot, an ominous
    sight which brought terror to all who met them. It is reported that
    within the Temple enclosure alone about ten thousand infidels
    perished.” [TG79]

    *Christian chronicler Eckehard of Aura noted that “even the following
    summer in all of palestine the air was polluted by the stench of
    decomposition”. One million victims of the first crusade alone. [WW41]

    *Battle of Askalon, 8/12/1099. 200,000 heathens slaughtered “in the
    name of Our Lord Jesus Christ”. [WW45]

    *Fourth crusade 4/12/1204 Constantinople sacked, number of victims
    unknown, numerous thousands, many of them Christian. [WW141-148]

    *Rest of Crusades in less detail until the fall of Akkon 1291
    probably 20 million victims (in the Holy land and Arab/Turkish areas
    alone). [WW224]

    Note All figures according to contemporary (Christian) chroniclers.


    *Already in 385 C.E. the first Christians, the Spanish Priscillianus
    and six followers, were beheaded for heresy in Trier/Germany [DO26]

    *Manichaean heresy a crypto-Christian sect decent enough to practice
    birth control (and thus not as irresponsible as faithful Catholics)
    was exterminated in huge campaigns all over the Roman empire between
    372 C.E. and 444 C.E. Numerous thousands of victims. [NC]

    *Albigensians the first Crusade intended to slay other Christians.

    The Albigensians (cathars = Christians allegedly that have all rarely
    sucked) viewed themselves as good Christians, but would not accept
    roman Catholic rule, and taxes, and prohibition of birth control. [NC]

    Begin of violence on command of pope Innocent III (greatest single
    pre-nazi mass murderer) in 1209. Beziérs (today France) 7/22/1209
    destroyed, all the inhabitants were slaughtered. Victims (including
    Catholics refusing to turn over their heretic neighbours and friends)
    20,000-70,000. [WW179-181]

    *Carcassonne 8/15/1209, thousands slain. Other cities followed.

    *subsequent 20 years of war until nearly all Cathars (probably half
    the population of the Languedoc, today southern France) were
    exterminated. [WW183]

    *After the war ended (1229) the Inquisition was founded 1232 to search
    and destroy surviving/hiding heretics. Last Cathars burned at the
    stake 1324. [WW183] *Estimated one million victims (cathar heresy
    alone), [WW183]

    *Other heresies Waldensians, Paulikians, Runcarians, Josephites, and
    many others. Most of these sects exterminated, (I believe some
    Waldensians live today, yet they had to endure 600 years of
    persecution) I estimate at least hundred thousand victims (including
    the Spanish inquisition but excluding victims in the New World).

    *Spanish Inquisitor Torquemada alone allegedly responsible for 10,220
    burnings. [DO28]

    *John Huss, a critic of papal infallibility and indulgences, was
    burned at the stake in 1415. [LI475-522]

    *University professor B.Hubmaier burned at the stake 1538 in Vienna.

    *Giordano Bruno, Dominican monk, after having been incarcerated for
    seven years, was burned at the stake for heresy on the Campo dei Fiori
    (Rome) on 2/17/1600.


    *from the beginning of Christianity to 1484 probably more than several

    *in the era of witch hunting (1484-1750) according to modern scholars
    several hundred thousand (about 80% female) burned at the stake or
    hanged. [WV]

    *incomplete list of documented cases

    The Burning of Witches – A Chronicle of the Burning Times

    Religious Wars

    *15th century Crusades against Hussites, thousands slain. [DO30]

    *1538 pope Paul III declared Crusade against apostate England and all
    English as slaves of Church (fortunately had not power to go into
    action). [DO31]

    *1568 Spanish Inquisition Tribunal ordered extermination of 3 million
    rebels in (then Spanish) Netherlands. Thousands were actually slain.

    *1572 In France about 20,000 Huguenots were killed on command of pope
    Pius V. Until 17th century 200,000 flee. [DO31]

    *17th century Catholics slay Gaspard de Coligny, a Protestant leader.
    After murdering him, the Catholic mob mutilated his body, “cutting off
    his head, his hands, and his genitals… and then dumped him into the
    river […but] then, deciding that it was not worthy of being food for
    the fish, they hauled it out again [… and] dragged what was left …
    to the gallows of Montfaulcon, ‘to be meat and carrion for maggots and
    crows’.” [SH191]

    *17th century Catholics sack the city of Magdeburg/Germany roughly
    30,000 Protestants were slain. “In a single church fifty women were
    found beheaded,” reported poet Friedrich Schiller, “and infants still
    sucking the breasts of their lifeless mothers.” [SH191]

    *17th century 30 years’ war (Catholic vs. Protestant) at least 40% of
    population decimated, mostly in Germany. [DO31-32]


    *Already in the 4th and 5th centuries synagogues were burned by
    Christians. Number of Jews slain unknown.

    *In the middle of the fourth century the first synagogue was destroyed
    on command of bishop Innocentius of Dertona in Northern Italy. The
    first synagogue known to have been burned down was near the river
    Euphrat, on command of the bishop of Kallinikon in the year 388.

    *17. Council of Toledo 694 Jews were enslaved, their property
    confiscated, and their children forcibly baptized. [DA454]

    *The Bishop of Limoges (France) in 1010 had the cities’ Jews, who
    would not convert to Christianity, expelled or killed. [DA453]

    *First Crusade Thousands of Jews slaughtered 1096, maybe 12.000
    total. Places Worms 5/18/1096, Mainz 5/27/1096 (1100 persons),
    Cologne, Neuss, Altenahr, Wevelinghoven, Xanten, Moers, Dortmund,
    Kerpen, Trier, Metz, Regensburg, Prag and others (All locations
    Germany except Metz/France, Prag/Czech) [EJ]

    *Second Crusade 1147. Several hundred Jews were slain in Ham, Sully,
    Carentan, and Rameru (all locations in France). [WW57]

    *Third Crusade English Jewish communities sacked 1189/90. [DO40]
    *Fulda/Germany 1235 34 Jewish men and women slain. [DO41]

    *1257, 1267 Jewish communities of London, Canterbury, Northampton,
    Lincoln, Cambridge, and others exterminated. [DO41]

    *1290 in Bohemian (Poland) allegedly 10,000 Jews killed. [DO41]

    *1337 Starting in Deggendorf/Germany a Jew-killing craze reaches 51
    towns in Bavaria, Austria, Poland. [DO41]

    *1348 All Jews of Basel/Switzerland and Strasbourg/France (two
    thousand) burned. [DO41]

    *1349 In more than 350 towns in Germany all Jews murdered, mostly
    burned alive (in this one year more Jews were killed than Christians
    in 200 years of ancient Roman persecution of Christians). [DO42]

    *1389 In Prag 3,000 Jews were slaughtered. [DO42]

    *1391 Seville’s Jews killed (Archbishop Martinez leading). 4,000 were
    slain, 25,000 sold as slaves. [DA454] Their identification was made
    easy by the brightly colored “badges of shame” that all jews above the
    age of ten had been forced to wear.

    *1492 In the year Columbus set sail to conquer a New World, more than
    150,000 Jews were expelled from Spain, many died on their way
    6/30/1492. [MM470-476]

    *1648 Chmielnitzki massacres In Poland about 200,000 Jews were slain.

    (I feel sick …) this goes on and on, century after century, right
    into the kilns of Auschwitz.

    Native Peoples

    *Beginning with Columbus (a former slave trader and would-be Holy
    Crusader) the conquest of the New World began, as usual understood as
    a means to propagate Christianity.

    *Within hours of landfall on the first inhabited island he encountered
    in the Caribbean, Columbus seized and carried off six native people
    who, he said, “ought to be good servants … [and] would easily be
    made Christians, because it seemed to me that they belonged to no
    religion.” [SH200]

    While Columbus described the Indians as “idolators” and “slaves, as
    many as [the Crown] shall order,” his pal Michele de Cuneo, Italian
    nobleman, referred to the natives as “beasts” because “they eat when
    they are hungry,” and made love “openly whenever they feel like it.”

    *On every island he set foot on, Columbus planted a cross, “making the
    declarations that are required” – the requerimiento – to claim the
    ownership for his Catholic patrons in Spain. And “nobody objected.” If
    the Indians refused or delayed their acceptance (or understanding),
    the requerimiento continued

    “I certify to you that, with the help of God, we shall powerfully
    enter in your country and shall make war against you … and shall
    subject you to the yoke and obedience of the Church … and shall do
    you all mischief that we can, as to vassals who do not obey and refuse
    to receive their lord and resist and contradict him.” [SH66]

    *Likewise in the words of John Winthrop, first governor of
    Massachusetts Bay Colony “justifieinge the undertakeres of the
    intended Plantation in New England … to carry the Gospell into those
    parts of the world, … and to raise a Bulworke against the kingdome
    of the Ante-Christ.” [SH235]

    *In average two thirds of the native population were killed by
    colonist-imported smallpox before violence began. This was a great
    sign of “the marvelous goodness and providence of God” to the
    Christians of course, e.g. the Governor of the Massachusetts Bay
    Colony wrote in 1634, as “for the natives, they are near all dead of
    the smallpox, so as the Lord hath cleared our title to what we
    possess.” [SH109,238]

    *On Hispaniola alone, on Columbus visits, the native population
    (Arawak), a rather harmless and happy people living on an island of
    abundant natural resources, a literal paradise, soon mourned 50,000
    dead. [SH204]

    *The surviving Indians fell victim to rape, murder, enslavement and
    spanish raids.

    *As one of the culprits wrote “So many Indians died that they could
    not be counted, all through the land the Indians lay dead everywhere.
    The stench was very great and pestiferous.” [SH69]

    *The indian chief Hatuey fled with his people but was captured and
    burned alive. As “they were tying him to the stake a Franciscan friar
    urged him to take Jesus to his heart so that his soul might go to
    heaven, rather than descend into hell. Hatuey replied that if heaven
    was where the Christians went, he would rather go to hell.” [SH70]

    *What happened to his people was described by an eyewitness

    “The Spaniards found pleasure in inventing all kinds of odd cruelties
    … They built a long gibbet, long enough for the toes to touch the
    ground to prevent strangling, and hanged thirteen [natives] at a time
    in honor of Christ Our Saviour and the twelve Apostles… then, straw
    was wrapped around their torn bodies and they were burned alive.”

    Or, on another occasion

    “The Spaniards cut off the arm of one, the leg or hip of another, and
    from some their heads at one stroke, like butchers cutting up beef and
    mutton for market. Six hundred, including the cacique, were thus slain
    like brute beasts…Vasco [de Balboa] ordered forty of them to be torn
    to pieces by dogs.” [SH83]

    *The “island’s population of about eight million people at the time of
    Columbus’s arrival in 1492 already had declined by a third to a half
    before the year 1496 was out.” Eventually all the island’s natives
    were exterminated, so the Spaniards were “forced” to import slaves
    from other caribbean islands, who soon suffered the same fate. Thus
    “the Caribbean’s millions of native people [were] thereby effectively
    liquidated in barely a quarter of a century”. [SH72-73] “In less than
    the normal lifetime of a single human being, an entire culture of
    millions of people, thousands of years resident in their homeland, had
    been exterminated.” [SH75]

    *”And then the Spanish turned their attention to the mainland of
    Mexico and Central America. The slaughter had barely begun. The
    exquisite city of Tenochtitlán [Mexico city] was next.” [SH75]

    *Cortez, Pizarro, De Soto and hundreds of other spanish conquistadors
    likewise sacked southern and mesoamerican civilizations in the name of
    Christ (De Soto also sacked Florida). *”When the 16th century ended,
    some 200,000 Spaniards had moved to the Americas. By that time
    probably more than 60,000,000 natives were dead.” [SH95]

    Of course no different were the founders of what today is the US of

    *Although none of the settlers would have survived winter without
    native help, they soon set out to expel and exterminate the Indians.
    Warfare among (north American) Indians was rather harmless, in
    comparison to European standards, and was meant to avenge insults
    rather than conquer land. In the words of some of the pilgrim fathers
    “Their Warres are farre less bloudy…”, so that there usually was “no
    great slawter of nether side”. Indeed, “they might fight seven yeares
    and not kill seven men.” What is more, the Indians usually spared
    women and children. [SH111]

    *In the spring of 1612 some English colonists found life among the
    (generally friendly and generous) natives attractive enough to leave
    Jamestown – “being idell … did runne away unto the Indyans,” – to
    live among them (that probably solved a sex problem).

    “Governor Thomas Dale had them hunted down and executed ‘Some he
    apointed (sic) to be hanged Some burned Some to be broken upon wheles,
    others to be staked and some shott to deathe’.” [SH105] Of course
    these elegant measures were restricted for fellow englishmen “This
    was the treatment for those who wished to act like Indians. For those
    who had no choice in the matter, because they were the native people
    of Virginia” methods were different “when an Indian was accused by an
    Englishman of stealing a cup and failing to return it, the English
    response was to attack the natives in force, burning the entire
    community” down. [SH105]

    *On the territory that is now Massachusetts the founding fathers of
    the colonies were committing genocide, in what has become known as the
    “Peqout War”. The killers were New England Puritan Christians,
    refugees from persecution in their own home country England.

    *When however, a dead colonist was found, apparently killed by
    Narragansett Indians, the Puritan colonists wanted revenge. Despite
    the Indian chief’s pledge they attacked.

    Somehow they seem to have lost the idea of what they were after,
    because when they were greeted by Pequot Indians (long-time foes of
    the Narragansetts) the troops nevertheless made war on the Pequots and
    burned their villages.

    The puritan commander-in-charge John Mason after one massacre wrote
    “And indeed such a dreadful Terror did the Almighty let fall upon
    their Spirits, that they would fly from us and run into the very
    Flames, where many of them perished … God was above them, who
    laughed his Enemies and the Enemies of his People to Scorn, making
    them as a fiery Oven … Thus did the Lord judge among the Heathen,
    filling the Place with dead Bodies” men, women, children. [SH113-114]
    *So “the Lord was pleased to smite our Enemies in the hinder Parts,
    and to give us their land for an inheritance”. [SH111].

    *Because of his readers’ assumed knowledge of Deuteronomy, there was
    no need for Mason to quote the words that immediately follow

    “Thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth. But thou shalt utterly
    destroy them…” (Deut 20)

    *Mason’s comrade Underhill recalled how “great and doleful was the
    bloody sight to the view of the young soldiers” yet reassured his
    readers that “sometimes the Scripture declareth women and children
    must perish with their parents”. [SH114]

    *Other Indians were killed in successful plots of poisoning. The
    colonists even had dogs especially trained to kill Indians and to
    devour children from their mothers breasts, in the colonists’ own
    words “blood Hounds to draw after them, and Mastives to seaze them.”
    (This was inspired by spanish methods of the time)

    In this way they continued until the extermination of the Pequots was
    near. [SH107-119]

    *The surviving handful of Indians “were parceled out to live in
    servitude. John Endicott and his pastor wrote to the governor asking
    for ‘a share’ of the captives, specifically ‘a young woman or girle
    and a boy if you thinke good’.” [SH115]

    *Other tribes were to follow the same path.

    *Comment the Christian exterminators “God’s Will, which will at last
    give us cause to say How Great is His Goodness! and How Great is his

    “Thus doth the Lord Jesus make them to bow before him, and to lick the
    Dust!” [TA]

    *Like today, lying was OK to Christians then. “Peace treaties were
    signed with every intention to violate them when the Indians ‘grow
    secure uppon (sic) the treatie’, advised the Council of State in
    Virginia, ‘we shall have the better Advantage both to surprise them, &
    cutt downe theire Corne’.” [SH106]

    *In 1624 sixty heavily armed Englishmen cut down 800 defenseless
    Indian men, women and children. [SH107]

    *In a single massacre in “King Philip’s War” of 1675 and 1676 some
    “600 Indians were destroyed. A delighted Cotton Mather, revered pastor
    of the Second Church in Boston, later referred to the slaughter as a
    ‘barbeque’.” [SH115]

    *To summarize Before the arrival of the English, the western Abenaki
    people in New Hampshire and Vermont had numbered 12,000. Less than
    half a century later about 250 remained alive – a destruction rate of
    98%. The Pocumtuck people had numbered more than 18,000, fifty years
    later they were down to 920 – 95% destroyed. The Quiripi-Unquachog
    people had numbered about 30,000, fifty years later they were down to
    1500 – 95% destroyed. The Massachusetts people had numbered at least
    44,000, fifty years later barely 6000 were alive – 81% destroyed.
    [SH118] These are only a few examples of the multitude of tribes
    living before Christian colonists set their foot on the New World. All
    this was before the smallpox epidemics of 1677 and 1678 had occurred.
    And the carnage was not over then.

    *All the above was only the beginning of the European colonization, it
    was before the frontier age actually had begun.

    *A total of maybe more than 150 million Indians (of both Americas)
    were destroyed in the period of 1500 to 1900, as an average two thirds
    by smallpox and other epidemics, that leaves some 50 million killed
    directly by violence, bad treatment and slavery.

    *In many countries, such as Brazil, and Guatemala, this continues even

    More Notable Events in US history

    *Reverend Solomon Stoddard, one of New England’s most esteemed
    religious leaders, in “1703 formally proposed to the Massachusetts
    Governor that the colonists be given the financial wherewithal to
    purchase and train large packs of dogs ‘to hunt Indians as they do
    bears’.” [SH241]

    *Massacre of Sand Creek, Colorado 11/29/1864. Colonel John Chivington,
    a former Methodist minister and still elder in the church (“I long to
    be wading in gore”) had a Cheyenne village of about 600, mostly women
    and children, gunned down despite the chiefs’ waving with a white
    flag 400-500 killed.

    From an eye-witness account “There were some thirty or forty squaws
    collected in a hole for protection; they sent out a little girl about
    six years old with a white flag on a stick; she had not proceeded but
    a few steps when she was shot and killed. All the squaws in that hole
    were afterwards killed …” [SH131]

    *By the 1860s, “in Hawai’i the Reverend Rufus Anderson surveyed the
    carnage that by then had reduced those islands’ native population by
    90 percent or more, and he declined to see it as tragedy; the expected
    total die-off of the Hawaiian population was only natural, this
    missionary said, somewhat equivalent to ‘the amputation of diseased
    members of the body’.” [SH244]

    20th Century Church Atrocities

    *Catholic extermination camps

    Surpisingly few know that Nazi extermination camps in World War II
    were by no means the only ones in Europe at the time. In the years
    1942-1943 also in Croatia existed numerous extermination camps, run by
    Catholic Ustasha under their dictator Ante Paveliç, a practising
    Catholic and regular visitor to the then pope. There were even
    concentration camps exclusively for children!

    In these camps – the most notorious was Jasenovac, headed by a
    Franciscan friar – orthodox-Christian serbians (and a substantial
    number of Jews) were murdered. Like the Nazis the Catholic Ustasha
    burned their victims in kilns, alive (the Nazis were decent enough to
    have their victims gassed first). But most of the victims were simply
    stabbed, slain or shot to death, the number of them being estimated
    between 300,000 and 600,000, in a rather tiny country. Many of the
    killers were Franciscan friars. The atrocities were appalling enough
    to induce bystanders of the Nazi “Sicherheitsdient der SS”, watching,
    to complain about them to Hitler (who did not listen). The pope knew
    about these events and did nothing to prevent them. [MV]

    *Catholic terror in Vietnam

    In 1954 Vietnamese freedom fighters – the Viet Minh – had finally
    defeated the French colonial government in North Vietnam, which by
    then had been supported by U.S. funds amounting to more than $2
    billion. Although the victorious assured religious freedom to all
    (most non-buddhist Vietnamese were Catholics), due to huge
    anticommunist propaganda campaigns many Catholics fled to the South.
    With the help of Catholic lobbies in Washington and Cardinal Spellman,
    the Vatican’s spokesman in U.S. politics, who later on would call the
    U.S. forces in Vietnam “Soldiers of Christ”, a scheme was concocted to
    prevent democratic elections which could have brought the communist
    Viet Minh to power in the South as well, and the fanatic Catholic Ngo
    Dinh Diem was made president of South Vietnam. [MW16ff]

    Diem saw to it that U.S. aid, food, technical and general assistance
    was given to Catholics alone, Buddhist individuals and villages were
    ignored or had to pay for the food aids which were given to Catholics
    for free. The only religious denomination to be supported was Roman

    The Vietnamese McCarthyism turned even more vicious than its American
    counterpart. By 1956 Diem promulgated a presidential order which read

    “Individuals considered dangerous to the national defense and common
    security may be confined by executive order, to a concentration camp.”

    Supposedly to fight communism, thousands of buddhist protesters and
    monks were imprisoned in “detention camps.” Out of protest dozens of
    buddhist teachers – male and female – and monks poured gasoline over
    themselves and burned themselves. (Note that Buddhists burned
    themselves in comparison Christians tend to burn others). Meanwhile
    some of the prison camps, which in the meantime were filled with
    Protestant and even Catholic protesters as well, had turned into
    no-nonsense death camps. It is estimated that during this period of
    terror (1955-1960) at least 24,000 were wounded – mostly in street
    riots – 80,000 people were executed, 275,000 had been detained or
    tortured, and about 500,000 were sent to concentration or detention
    camps. [MW76-89].

    To support this kind of government in the next decade thousands of
    American GI’s lost their life.

    *Christianity kills the cat

    On July 1, 1976, Anneliese Michel, a 23-year-old student of a teachers
    college in Germany, died she starved herself to death. For months she
    had been haunted by demonic visions and apparitions, and for months
    two Catholic priests – with explicit approval of the Catholic bishop
    of Würzburg – additionally pestered and tormented the wretched girl
    with their exorcist rituals. After her death in Klingenberg hospital –
    her body was littered with wounds – her parents, both of them
    fanatical Catholics, were sentenced to six months for not having
    called for medical help. None of the priests was punished on the
    contrary, Miss Michel’s grave today is a place of pilgrimage and
    worship for a number of similarly faithful Catholics (in the
    seventeenth century Würzburg was notorious for it’s extensive witch

    This case is only the tip of an iceberg of such evil superstition and
    has become known only because of its lethal outcome. [SP80]

    *Rwanda Massacres

    In 1994 in the small african country of Rwanda in just a few months
    several hundred thousand civilians were butchered, apparently a
    conflict of the Hutu and Tutsi ethnic groups.

    For quite some time I heard only rumours about Catholic clergy
    actively involved in the 1994 Rwanda massacres. Odd denials of
    involvement were printed in Catholic church journals, before even
    anybody had openly accused members of the church.

    Then, 10/10/96, in the newscast of S2 Aktuell, Germany – a station not
    at all critical to Christianity – the following was stated

    “Anglican as well as Catholic priests and nuns are suspect of having
    actively participated in murders. Especially the conduct of a certain
    Catholic priest has been occupying the public mind in Rwanda’s capital
    Kigali for months. He was minister of the church of the Holy Family
    and allegedly murdered Tutsis in the most brutal manner. He is
    reported to have accompanied marauding Hutu militia with a gun in his
    cowl. In fact there has been a bloody slaughter of Tutsis seeking
    shelter in his parish. Even two years after the massacres many
    Catholics refuse to set foot on the threshold of their church, because
    to them the participation of a certain part of the clergy in the
    slaughter is well established. There is almost no church in Rwanda
    that has not seen refugees – women, children, old – being brutally
    butchered facing the crucifix.

    According to eyewitnesses clergymen gave away hiding Tutsis and turned
    them over to the machetes of the Hutu militia.

    In connection with these events again and again two Benedictine nuns
    are mentioned, both of whom have fled into a Belgian monastery in the
    meantime to avoid prosecution. According to survivors one of them
    called the Hutu killers and led them to several thousand people who
    had sought shelter in her monastery. By force the doomed were driven
    out of the churchyard and were murdered in the presence of the nun
    right in front of the gate. The other one is also reported to have
    directly cooperated with the murderers of the Hutu militia. In her
    case again witnesses report that she watched the slaughtering of
    people in cold blood and without showing response. She is even accused
    of having procured some petrol used by the killers to set on fire and
    burn their victims alive…” [S2]

    *As can be seen from these events, to Christianity the Dark Ages never
    come to an end.

    20th Century Terrorism by Christians opposed to doctors


    In the U.S., violence directed toward abortion providers has killed 7 people, including 3 doctors, 2 clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort.[5]

    * March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of the year before. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Dr. Gunn’s murder and was sentenced to life in prison.

    * June 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside of another facility in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings, received a death sentence, and was executed September 3, 2003.

    * December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi, who prior to his arrest was distributing pamphlets from Human Life International,[6] was arrested and confessed to the killings. He committed suicide in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.

    * January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph, who was also responsible for the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, was charged with the crime and received two life sentences as a result.

    * October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death at his home in Amherst, New York. His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Dr. Slepian’s murder after finally being apprehended in France in 2001.

    Attempted murder, assault, and threats

    According to statistics gathered by the National Abortion Federation (NAF), an organization of abortion providers, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers.[8] The attempted murders were:[9][10][5]

    * August 19, 1993: Dr. George Tiller was shot outside of an abortion facility in Wichita, Kansas. Shelley Shannon was charged with the crime and received an 11-year prison sentence.

    * June 29, 1994: June Barret was shot in the same attack which claimed the lives of James Barrett, her husband, and Dr. John Britton.

    * December 30, 1994: Five individuals were wounded in the same-day shootings which killed Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols.

    * December 18, 1996: Dr. Calvin Jackson of New Orleans, Louisiana was stabbed 15 times, losing 4 pints of blood. Donald Cooper was charged with second-degree attempted murder and sentenced to 20 years.[11]

    * October 28, 1997: A physician whose name has not been revealed was shot in his home in Rochester, New York.

    * January 29, 1998: Emily Lyons, a nurse, was severely injured in the bombing which also killed Robert Sanderson.

    * September 11, 2006 David McMenemy attempted a suicide bombing of a women’s clinic in Davenport, Iowa after scouting targets throughout the Midwest. It was later revealed that the targeted clinic did not perform or make referrals for abortions.

    Arson, bombing, and property crimes

    According to NAF, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, property crimes committed against abortion providers have included 41 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, 619 bomb threats, 1630 incidents of trespassing, 1264 incidents of vandalism, and 100 attacks with butyric acid (“stink bombs”).[8] The first clinic arson occurred in Oregon in March 1976 and the first bombing occurred in February 1978 in Ohio.[13] More recent incidents have included:[5]

    * October 1999: Martin Uphoff set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, causing US$100 worth of damage. He was later sentenced to 60 months in prison.

    * May 28, 2000: An arson at a clinic in Concord, New Hampshire on resulted in damage estimated at US$20,000.

    * October 1, 2000: A Catholic priest drove his car into the Northern Illinois Health Clinic after learning that the FDA had approved the drug RU-486. He pulled out an ax before being shot at by a security guard.

    * June 11, 2001: A bombing at a clinic in Tacoma, Washington on destroyed a wall, resulting in US$6000 in damages

    * July 4, 2005: A clinic Palm Beach, Florida was the target of an arson.

    * December 12, 2005: Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe threw a Molotov cocktail at a clinic in Shreveport, Louisiana. The device missed the building and no damage was caused. In August 2006, Hughes was sentenced to six years in prison, and Dunahoe to one year.

    * September 13, 2006 David McMenemy of Rochester Hills, Michigan crashed his car into the Edgerton Women’s Care Center in Davenport, Iowa. He then doused the lobby in gasoline and then started a fire. McMenemy committed these acts in the belief that the center was performing abortions, however Edgerton is not an abortion clinc.[14]

    * April 25, 2007: A package left at a women’s health clinic in Austin, Texas contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device.[15]

    * May 9, 2007: An unidentified person deliberately set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia.[16]

    * December 6, 2007: Two unidentified persons set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Albuquerque, New Mexico.[17]


    K.Deschner, Abermals krähte der Hahn, Stuttgart 1962.

    K.Deschner, Opus Diaboli, Reinbek 1987.

    P.W.Edbury, Crusade and Settlement, Cardiff Univ. Press 1985.

    S.Eidelberg, The Jews and the Crusaders, Madison 1977.

    H.C.Lea, The Inquisition of the Middle Ages, New York 1961.

    M.Margolis, A.Marx, A History of the Jewish People.

    A.Manhattan, The Vatican’s Holocaust, Springfield 1986.

    See also V.Dedijer, The Yugoslav Auschwitz and the Vatican, Buffalo
    NY, 1992.

    J.T.Noonan, Contraception A History of its Treatment by the Catholic
    Theologians and Canonists, Cambridge/Mass., 1992.

    Newscast of S2 Aktuell, Germany, 10/10/96, 1200.

    D.Stannard, American Holocaust, Oxford University Press 1992.

    German news magazine Der Spiegel, no.49, 12/2/1996.

    A True Account of the Most Considerable Occurrences that have Hapned
    in the Warre Between the English and the Indians in New England,
    London 1676.

    F.Turner, Beyond Geography, New York 1980.

    H.Wollschläger Die bewaffneten Wallfahrten gen Jerusalem, Zürich

    (This is in german and what is worse, it is out of print. But it is
    the best I ever read about crusades and includes a full list of
    original medieval Christian chroniclers’ writings).

    Estimates on the number of executed witches

    *N.Cohn, Europe’s Inner Demons An Enquiry Inspired by the Great Witch
    Hunt, Frogmore 1976, 253.

    *R.H.Robbins, The Encyclopedia of Witchcraft and Demonology, New York
    1959, 180.

    *J.B.Russell, Witchcraft in the Middle Ages, Ithaca/NY 1972, 39.

    *H.Zwetsloot, Friedrich Spee und die Hexenprozesse, Trier 1954, 56.

    20th Century Terrorism Section

    5.^ NARAL Pro-Choice America Foundation. (2006). Clinic violence and intimidation. Retrieved April 13, 2006.
    6.^ Berlet, Chip. “Clinic Violence, The Religious Right, Scapegoating, Armed Militias, & the Freemason Conspiracy,” The Body Politic, Vol. 5, No. 2 February 1995.
    7.^ Crow, Karen. (August 19, 2005). A Violent Week in August. Choice! Magazine. Retrieved January 25, 2007.
    8.^ a b National Abortion Federation. (2005). Incidence of Violence & Disruption Against Abortion Providers in the U.S. & Canada. Retrieved April 13, 2006.
    9.^ Robinson, B.A. Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance. (November 9, 2004). “Violence & Harassment at U.S. Abortion Clinics. Retrieved April 13, 2006.
    10.^National Abortion Federation. (2006). Clinic Violence: History of Violence. Retrieved April 13, 2006.
    11.^ Loewentheil, Kara. (December 21, 2004). Donald Cooper’s Day of Violence. Choice! Magazine. Retrieved January 25, 2007.
    12.^ National Abortion Federation. (2007). Anthrax Attacks.” Retrieved February 10, 2007.
    13.^ National Abortion Federation. (2007). “Arsons and Bombings.” Retrieved February 10, 2007.
    14.^ “Man Crashes Into Davenport Health Clinic” (in English). KWQC (2006-09-13). Retrieved on 2008-05-11.
    15.^ “Explosive found at Austin women’s clinic.” (April 26, 2007). Houston Chronicle. Retrieved April 27, 2007.
    16.^ “Planned Parenthood Arson.” (May 12, 2007). Retrieved May 14, 2007.
    17.^ “Albuquerque abortion clinic fire was arson, feds say.” (December 8, 2007). The Albuquerque Tribune. Retrieved December 18, 2007.

    • Starla Lynn says

      FYI: Believing in God and that Jesus is the son of God does not make you a murderer. But, I am sure that you know this. Every person has their own rights and to group all “Christians” together, especially as “killers” is absurd. To love God is to desire being filled with love, not hate. God does not promote the judgement of people by other people. ” first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.” Also, people believe in God not because they are perfect but because they lack perfection. Of course this does not mean that “Christians are murderers” but it does mean that people that believe in God are still faulted, and they know this. God does not remove all problems but is there with us through them. War will still happen. And please do not accept any and every resource you see as viable for many are not. Just a few notes. Please stop being as judgmental as you perceive those that believe in a higher power to be. It’s not fun to be judged, no matter who its from.

  8. nora says

    Quoting you: “meaning it’s not the mother’s choice to make at all”…this is just your OPINION and is not a FACT. My OPINION is totally opposite from yours. I believe it is totally her choice. Parasite is not meant to be used in an ignorant way. Look up the definition. It’s an organism whose survival is contingent upon the host. And FYI, I am the mother of 2 grown children which I chose to have. Thank God I live in a country where I had that choice. I don’t give my opinion on this because I am trying to persuade anyone to believe as I do. I just believe people need to be more open minded about the subject and not be judgemental about a woman’s choice to terminate or continue a pregnancy. If a woman cannot choose abortion, then so be it. But don’t be critical of those who choose the other route. And the last time I checked, we still have freedom of speech in this country. Therefore, I’ll use parasite in this context again, and again and again if I so choose to.

  9. muggle says

    You should really watch the words you use. Once a baby is concieved(not born) he/she has his/her own life and not the mothers meaning it’s not the mother’s choice to make at all. (PS: pls don’t use parasite in this context again).

  10. doug says

    Your facts on Christian killing are way off base. Do yourself a favor and educate yourself before commenting and postig your ignorant ideaology on blogs. History tells us (do the research) that murder in the name of Christianity ( not true Bible believing Christians) account for approximately 200,000 people. Atheists like Karl Marx, Hitler, Tsaoe, etc.. account for hundreds of millions of deaths. Christianity is responsible for almost every freedom you have in this country. Amazing. Stop watching the History channel and CNN.

  11. yve says

    I’m a neuter, but here me out on this–this is clearly a misinterpretation of everything… a candidate’s stand doesn’t end with an issue and a period–thus, depth of each issue should be weighed before another word is spoken.

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