About a week ago, a group of people filed a lawsuit in New York to prevent a cross from being erected within the World Trade Center memorial without equal opportunity for other religions who wish to have memorials there as well.
According to the lawsuit, among the 2,792 people killed in the twin towers, 31 were Muslim Americans, approximately 400 to 500 were Jewish Americans, approximately 500 were non-religious Americans, and an unknown number were Americans of other faiths. (So, about half of the people who died were not Christian.)
Additionally:
No other religious or non-religious group has been permitted a memorial.
Fox News had some discussions about this event including this one.
Fox News on the WTC Cross Lawsuit
Clearly Christians are angry. They later had Blair Scott, Communications Director for American Atheists, on a show to talk about the lawsuit and immediately the Fox News Facebook page was flooded with thousands of comments. I would link to the post, but apparently Fox removed it. Not before several comments were screen captured though.
Keep in mind, this blog post is not about whether or not the Cross or any other religious things should be allowed at the WTC Memorial, which incidentally is mostly funded with hundreds of millions of dollars of US taxpayer money from people of all religions, including non-religious people.
What it is about however is the swift, brutal and violently extreme comments that self-professed Christians made immediately following Blair Scott’s appearance to express his views on Fox TV.
Facebook Christians Advocating Death, Rape and Harm to Athiests
The list below represents just some of the comments that were captured before the content was deleted. Each commentator’s name is linked to their Facebook profile if it can be found, along with the quote attributed to that person. (If you find an inaccuracy or omission please let me know.)
Paul Altum
i say kill them all and let them see for themselves that there is God
Bob O’Connell
Shoot them. Shoot to kill.
Joe Martinez
To ALL ATHEIEST DIE AN GO TO HELL HAHA IF I COULD ID SHOOT ALL OF YOU IN THE HEAD WITH A 12GUAGE
Joseph Sneckenberg
thats easy shoot them
Casey M Jones
Shoot em. At least we know where they’re going, waste of oxygen
Mike Holeschek
Nail them to the cross then display it.
Chris Dunn
I thinly we should hang the leader of that group on the cross with nails through their hands and feet, place a crown of thorns upon their head, RAM a spear through their side all after being whipped and beaten publicly! Just so they can endure what Christ dod so they understand the sacrifice behind what that cross symbolizes.
Bob O’Connell
They’re atheists so it won’t matter if you kill them.
Tim Allison
KILL THEM.
Richard Silvia
someone show me where they live&and they will live no mere!
Raylene Ingmire
Here’s my solution, kill the group..just kidding, you figure it out. I’m so sick of people that pick and choose when they want to truly be American. They can go to Hell oh wait they will.
Sindy Clock
stupid atheists, I hope God kills them all.
Sindy Clock
I love Jesus, and the cross and if you dont, I hope someone rapes you!
Eileen Rourke
Any court or lawyer who takes this case should be hung!!!! If you look at some of the people who are atheists they are all miserable looking because they don’t have any faith in anything. You should all go live in another country. You have taken enough of my rights away.
Hans Anderson
atheist has no rights a snail has more rights than a atheist has I say throw them out to the sharks let them eat them like the ate bin laden
Michael Perri
these people are f’ing scum of the earth. can we start killing them now? few groups are filled with more hatred than atheists.
Scott Miller
IF THE CROSS OFFENDS YOU: SO SHOULD THIS COUNTRY; LEAVE BEFORE WE KILL YOU!!!!
Patrick Alley
Kill em all…let God sort em out. Guess what Atheists…
So, What Do You Think?
There have also been a lot of Tweets related to this issue, but I’m really wondering what YOU think about it?
- Christians, is it really acceptable to say, “I’m not like them. Those aren’t real Christians!” After all, the people who made these comments would say the exact same thing about you.
- Non-Christian people who identify with another religion, do you think your religion should be able to display a memorial to the believers who died alongside the Christians?
- Non-believers, is it really so important to warrant a national campaign to not allow a single Christian symbol at a monument for the dead?
I am DYING to hear what you guys think…
Nice to see all this Christian forgiveness here. You are all saying kill them,
Doesn’t you bible say tho shall not kill? Do on to others as you would be done to?
Turn the other cheek? Why are you all so into killing and raping others who think
differently from you. Christians where once persecuted for that. Shame on you all.
Drop the labels for a moment, and pay attention.
Look at everyone on this planet as a human being, without discrediting their existence.
They all have their own versions of reality.
Every law, and the very God they follow is very real to them.
Is it not despicable, that when confronted with criticism and questions by those curious and doubtful.
That they’d turn to violence and death threats? What type of people are those?
They are irrational, and trapped in a world that lacks reason.
These people need help, because their solution is to kill off their problems, instead of trying to understand why they are being questioned.
I am eternally grateful that Stalin, Mao, and others rid this world of millions of Christians. Part of why I exercise my 2nd amendment rights is to blow Christians away if they try to harm and my fellow atheists.
KILL EM ALL! LET JESUS CHRIST SORT EM OUT!
OK Sindy clock is a gay man named Jim Goonan he hates Christians and Sindy Clock is his fake profile that he use’s all over FB and the NET to make Christians look bad by saying really dumb crap. So anything he says just know its coming form a fake profile. I know him and he brags about this on one of my facebook debate pages.
I don’t know how Fox News gets away with half the stuff they get away with. They whip their viewers, who, by the way, are some of the most uneducated, overly-emotional, and extreme people this country has to offer, into frenzy with mostly lies or wordsmithing, then, after they’re all foaming at the mouth, they apologize and act like it was a mistake. It’s only a matter of time before some of the people who post comments like that to Facebook will actually start hunting down people who disagree with them. And Fox will hide behind the 1st Amendment…of course.
Granted, I think some of those Facebook posts are just people trolling, but some of them probably were actually legitimate threats. Most atheists don’t care about this, and the fact that some of these people who comment on Fox News generalize and say all atheists are miserable and faithless haters simply are a perfect example of the groupthinkers that now control this country (even though they are the minority).
Concerning the cross, I really don’t care if they display it as long as other faith groups and other non-religious groups can display their symbols if they so desire. Being an outspoken atheist, however, I can attest that hatred and bigotry against atheists are very real. I have received death threats and have had my property vandalized by so-called christians. I hate to think what my fate may be if the religious right suceeds in making america into a christian theocracy.
First, many of those posts ostensibly made by Chrstians may not have been.
Second, notice the hate coming from the atheist commenters?
Who ya kiddin? Atheists have killed Millions and MILLIONS when they had the poltical power to do so.
JD: Did Stalin and Mao outkill the Crusades? I seriously doubt it. Second, where are these atheist commenters? The only one I can see above you is a person noting that she has no problem with religious displays by Christians so long as every other religion gets to put up their stuff as well, and further noting that as an atheist, she has been subjected to death threats. I fail to see the hate in that statement, and yours, accusing hers of hatred, seems to me to be the only hatred in this thread.
You probably also think that opposing Israel’s apartheid-style policies toward Palestinians is the same as anti-Semitic hatred. Bully.
hate from atheists?? we learned it from u ,
atheist killer dictator?? where??
like all those good kristian massmurderers like hiter mussolinni franco fidel ..and all the south american dictators and ur republican fashist leader? ??
and stalin , 5 yrs orthodox priest student that was even feared by lenin (a jew converted to lutherism) and called him the “jesuit infiltrant“ ??
when stalin came into power, only 2500 orthodox churches where in existance ..when he died, 25.000
mao ..the buddist that became the highest that is to be achieved by buddism , becoming a god king himself//u know why he never washed?? go read buddism !!
korean dictators tried to do the same as mao ..and succeeded..
pol pot , buddist too ..
na where is there to be red in history of the great atheistic armies killig and slaughtering te religious, ??
its the other way a round ..u liar !!