Chris Langan is the World’s Smartest Man. That’s not an opinion, it’s a statement of fact. Mr. Langan’s IQ is nearly 200. Oh, and he’s spent 20 years being a bouncer at a bar.
This guy has had a rough life. As a kid he was abused by other kids and even his step father because he was smarter than all of them were. And if you listen to this entire interview with him you’ll see why he’s kind of pessimistic.
In reality, it’s pretty easy to see why he’s this way. In addition to the fact that he’s been brutalized all his life, during the interview he points out:
“Smart people are vastly outnumbered by average people. Its the nature of the bell curve.”
Here’s another way to think about this. Think about how much smarter you are than a really, really mentally retarded person.
An average person’s IQ is about 100, and that really retarded person is maybe 65 for a measly 35 point difference. Well, the deficit between Chris and the average person is nearly 300% greater! Heck, the difference between him and a genius is as great as the difference between a genius and a retarded person!
Now, imagine if you were that much smarter than every single living person around! Actually, don’t bother. Your puny brain probably doesn’t have the capacity to imagine that… Damn. I guess I’d be bitter too. It reminds me of the movie Idiocracy.
Anyway, having said all that, one problem I’ve noticed with extremely smart people is that they begin thinking that their one brain is actually more powerful than all the other brains around them combined. And Chris falls into this trap during the final video when he begins espousing the virtues of placing genetic controls on “human breeding”.
Chris Langan:
People who wanted to have children would apply to make sure they have no diseases. Why do we have to do it through genetic engineering? Well, we have to let only the fit breed…. Freedom is not necessarily a right. It is a privilege that you have to earn. A lot of people abuse their freedom and that is something that people have to be trained not to do.
Interviewer:
But who? Who does this training?
Chris Langan:
Well, I’d be perfectly willing to do it myself. Just put me in charge.”
Yikes! Pretty scary stuff. Sounds like the precursor to Nazi Germany, or something from a Borg episode of Star Trek.
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
If you actually watched all the parts of this, did you come out wondering how someone who scores so high on tests that measure problem solving ability could score so low on ability to relate to humanity in general? Could it be that individuals with brains that are highly specialized in one area simply become deficient in another?
Because really, I may be a mental midget when it comes to quickly calculating squares and dots on an IQ test compared to Mr Langan, but I could teach him volumes about how to relate to society. It seems to me that his attitude is that since he is “smarter”, his opinions should simply be accepted. But frankly, I don’t believe he is actually capable of comprehending anything that I cannot. He may arrive at a conclusion quicker, but this doesn’t mean that he doesn’t need to bring the rest of us along with him.
Oh, one last thing. Chris penned what he calls the Cognitive Theoretic Model of the Universe in 2001, subtitled “The Theory of Theories.” Man, I really wish he’d read my article about conservation of words. I skimmed through the whole thing and frankly I’ve never seen so many words used to end in no point whatsoever!
Official retraction (the first one ever! Yeah!)Due to some poor search results, coupled with poor research, and compounded by poor Web design, I originally incorrectly linked to Mr. Langan’s Theory of Theories. Seeing how this was in no way related to a model of the universe I figured it was crap! However, the real CTMU can be found here. So have fun.
Anyway, feel free to check it out you feeble minded little humans!
Thanks for all the comments everyone. But I’m sick of them now. Comments are being disabled on this post going forward.
So long, and thanks for all the fish.
John P.
Nullbot…
Ditto!
I wish you the same you wish me to the power of ten.
Au Revoir,
Arnold
Nice job on the LOL avalanche again. Forgotten what I said about that already hmm? Goodbye and good luck with the real world, you will need all the help you can get if you manage to fail so miserably online. The mere fact that everybody in this entire thread has ostracised you is testament to your social retardation. And if you actually think you had anyone convinced that you didn’t look up those archaic words in the first place then you are truly more foolish then even I had you pegged as.
I especially like your classy rebuttal mentioning that you don’t insult people and it is their fault they take it as an insult. Clearly your 12 year old classmates, along with yourself, fail to grasp the meaning of that word. Just for future reference, half of what you said above is meant to be an insult. You clearly use a dictionary when it suits you (coxcomb hmm? witty….), perhaps you will be sharp enough to use it again?
I won’t feel compelled to reply to you again. I will chuckle to myself as you do though, as I know you are far to petty to not have the last word. I’m sure it’ll be a good one too /rolls eyes
Jeremy,
History – Due Diligence of a person is very important in order for you to gauge the authenticity and applicability of their methods. I stated SOME my “accomplishments” NOT to impress you or others, but to IMPRESS UPON YOU and others that there is a “better” way..if you seek that and that is what you want. Assumption is that the person wants a life that they are happy, according to their values, wealthy in terms that they do not need to worry about money, et hoc genus omne.
For me, exempli gratia, dancing and getting wet with dirty water on the streets of Panama during Carnival is NOT my idea of fun, but I have nothing against them doing it. On the contrary, they should do what makes them feel happy. Just because, I wouldn’t do it, doesn’t mean it is bad or stupid. I wouldn’t dare think that way. Live and let live.
What I am against is (if) that person in that Carnival then comes to me and demands that I help them out, because they have no food, work, et hoc genus omne, for themself and their children. Why burden me with their personal problems? They knew they had responsibilities, why not tackle them? Of course, for the person that can do that and still remain independent…more power and respect to them.
I like the gym (weightlifting) and boxing (regular and kick-boxing). I spend sometimes two hours per day in the gym and sometimes more. If for whatever reason, my “obsession” with the gym/boxing interferes with my ability to make ends meet, I must NEVER burden anyone else with my problems when I was the cause of my own “misfortune”.
Is that immaturity or being a selfish person (as someone else mentioned)?
It’s interesting to see what your so-called friends think of you between themselves. Of course, you see the duplicity when they want to take a trip to the mountains or go see a concert and money is an impediment. Who do they call? You guessed it. Now, why would one want to use people?
Of course, I politely decline the “offer to help” them. All of a sudden, I am public enemy # 1, but yet between the “equals” they are friends, although none actually could or would help each other. Why such a “double standard”?
Just trying to understand the “masses”….or are they like that to each other too?
Well, Jeremy…we can argue whether “sarcasm is the lowest form of wit” until the cows come home, but I think – je hebt de klok horen luiden, maar je weet niet waar de klepel hangt; it is widely stated by the Majority of the members of the Bell Curve that “sarcasm is the lowest form of humor”.
To which I say: Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit only to those who have never mastered the art and/or those who always fall victim to it.
Au Revoir,
Arnold
Monte-Carlo, Monaco
PS. You can all me at my NY Penthouse and it will transfer to me in Monaco: 212-479-7990
Dear Nullbot,
Nullbot, I could eat alphabet soup and shit better insults than you.
The problem with the gene pool is that there’s no lifeguard and unfortunately: Nullbot was born! LOL
If I throw a stick, will you leave? LMAO
Nullbot, you have certainly validated my inherent mistrust and distrust of idiots. ROFL
You had to look up the word coxcomb, didn’t you? LOL . It was a TEST you MORON! By you having to look it up, you just proved to me you aren’t worthy of my time. You are a sub-human! A regular “bokitoâ€Â. ROFL
By your comments, I see the screw-up fairy has visited us again. LMAO
Don’t do me any favors by posting your autobiography and addressing it to me: Just the omission of YOUR autobiographical book alone would make a fairly good library out of a library that didn’t have a book in it. ROFL LMAO
If you think I am rude…sorry…but you are JUST insignificant.
Nullbot, I am returning your otherwise well-typed message to you, because someone, probably an ANAL-phabet, has typed gibberish all over it and put your name at the top. LOLOL.
Speaking off “analâ€Â, did the aliens forget to remove your anal probe? LOL
I’d continue to insult you, but you’re not bright enough to notice. LMAO
Speaking of bright; even your yellow teeth are brighter than you! LOLOL
Ga pak met de uil spleen,
Au-Revoir from Monte-Carlo, Monaco.
Arnold
PS. If you would like to talk to me yourself or punch my face in (if you think you can, you homo) call me at: 212-479-7990 (It’s the number of my Penthouse in NY, because I know you are a cheap bastard and have NO money to pay for a call…It will ring here all the way to Monte-Carlo, Monaco)
How can one be a “genuine” coxcomb when by definition it’s a faker? Seems to me you know those two words so well because they identify yourself perfectly.
coxcomb
n 1: a conceited dandy who is overly impressed by his own
accomplishments [syn: cockscomb]
3. A vain, showy fellow; a conceited, silly man, fond of
display; a superficial pretender to knowledge or
accomplishments; a fop.
Now who does that remind us all of? Oh wait, wasn’t there a guy who listed his big peni….I mean list of accomplishments earlier in this thread? What was his name again….
You’re a clown. Now move out of mom’s basement, once you finish school (it’s important remember) and try to really do the things you have listed as having done.
Dear Nullbot,
Yes! You are correct! Hope you live forever being correct.
Now, but making a grammatical mistake while being an American is a sign of ….
See if you can find out where you made the grammatical error, you almighty Lord.
Have you noticed that I have NOT once stooped so low as to try to “insult” anyone. I have made comments and people TOOK it as an insulted.
Sounds like the Black and Blond dichotomy…
Fare well Mr. “Perfect”. You are so wonderful that one day a statue will be raised in your honor… You are a genuine coxcomb and a popinjay!
If a homeless, fat, illiterate, UGLY, uneducated, unsophisticated and rebellious “person” from a third world country thought I was smart and great…it would NOT add anything meaningful to my life or as you so eloquently stated: to my ego.
Mr. Nullbot, I admire you, because a modest and humble little person like yourself….truly has much to be modest and humble about. LMAO
Have a good night….and NO checking ANY dictionaries…electronic or otherwise
As for being glad you are not me; I think you are confused, it is everyone else here who is glad they are not you.
“I have xyz qualifications. I make abc money. I’m better then you by virtue of having more stuff. blah blah blah” What a hero you are to us all. /bows
You hear those laughs? They aren’t laughing with you….
Way to many LOL’s. Laughing sheepishly at something you don’t find funny is a insecurity red flag. Checkmate, goodbye.
Insecure much Arnold? LOL
OK… All joking aside: I am sure all of us here want answers, despite our education, IQ or finances…and STOP with the name calling… LOLOL (I never did…by the way)
As far as dangerous is concerned as “r” puts it.
My experience: (Disclaimer; yours may be different)
I have met intelligent people that are just “mean”
I have met dumb people that are also just “mean”
I have met educated people that are also MEAN as hell
I have met uneducated people that are MEAN as hell.
What gives?
How does one AVOID these MEAN (=bad) people?
What is the common denominator? I accept and will review ALL answers…
I’m curious…to hear the experiences of others…not looking to disagree with anyone… lolol (I’m sure we all have better things to do)
Greetings from Monte-Carlo, Monaco
Au revoir
Huh? On the contrary. Stupid people that are poorly educated are, as Mr Langan points out, often in a position to cause catastrophe – CEOs of enterprise, politicians in government… these people have the power to cause catastrophes on so much of a wider scale. Langan appreciates this. I’d be happy for him to be in charge.
Pay attention to detail! it’s Arnold!!! Suffering from ADHD?
Yeah, actually I had some free time and decided to have some fun, that is why I didn’t continue.
Thanks, but are by your OWN ADMISSION, acknowledging that people on this board do not have a purported position? You mean “we” are all losers?
lolol
By the way, what does a immense vocabulary have to do with complex of inferiority??? You mean all English PhD (or any other language) suffer from a complex of inferiority?
To Neosapience [sic]: “I wish I could force you to trade places with a starving little girl in Dubai, perhaps that would open your eyes a little.” What? You want to FORCE somebody to do what YOU want? hmmmmm….
As far as Dubai is concerned… Read this: http://www.sheikhmohammed.co.ae/vgn-ext-templating/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=432d5c1090cc4110VgnVCM1000007064a8c0RCRD
If you are concerned with Dubai, please buy a plane ticket and go talk to: His Highness Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum.
Love to stay and confabulate with your wonderful human beings, but I have business to attend to.
Au Revoir,
Arnold
it’s obvious albert is a phony, no-one in his purported position would care to waste so much time writing comments like those in a forum like this.
back to the topic it’s obvious that intelligence is much more than what the IQ tests give you.. for instance, arrogance hinders the flow of the mind. IQ is good to know how strong you are neurologically, therefore affecting how intelligent you *can* be. but don’t forget that a car is more than its engine.
i agree with the author of the article, chris langan overuse of complicated words makes me think he suffers from a complex of inferiority…
david
After reading this thread i was left wondering whether anyone else noted the immaturity of Arnold – a self professed millionaire, philanthropist and by the sounds of it aristocratic royalty. You have not attempted to achieve anything other than the belittling of others, most likely to feed your own ego. You seem to require validation from others and i believe it is sad that you find it necessary to repeatedly flood us with list of achievements to do so. You may claim that profanity is a tool of the witless but you have no problems subscibing yourself to the use of sarcasm, widely considered the lowest form of wit.
Perhaps you are a fine example that great intelligence does thrive at the detriment of other, more sociable traits.
John P. It’s OK. Maybe they really have something interesting to say… Have no noticed I have used neither profanity or derogative remarks? I want to read something “enlightening”, but so far I have only been the recipient of some harsh words…which I politely declined such “gifts”…therefore the remittent has kept them in his possession. LOLOL
Seriously, I only confabulate with wealthy aristocratic individuals all day, so it is amusing to see how the “other” side “interacts”. I can use this in my book…or even movie…(more like documentary)…
Keep them coming…it is making the book better and better….
Met Vriendelijke Groeten,
Arnold
I’m not insulting, I’m stating the truth. If the truth hurts, then there is obviously something wrong.
Do you really think that no one else on this planet works as hard as you do? Why is it that they don’t have the money you claim to? Every person that has more money than they are capable of earning, attained it by taking it from someone else.
People should always help those that can’t help themselves. I can’t even believe that you aren’t capable of understanding that or that you don’t know how to “save lives”. I wish I could force you to trade places with a starving little girl in Dubai, perhaps that would open your eyes a little.
The problems with society lie within society as a whole. Contributing to the problems will never solve them, no matter what you do. Technology is wonderful, but people always use it to capitalize on others, which ultimately negates any good it may have done.
Personally, I can live without money. Do you think you’re talented enough to accomplish that feat?
In the end, our intentions will determine the fate of mankind. What are your intentions?
Ok Gents. No one wins this war of words, so let’s call it quits on this thread.
John P.
Dear Neosapience:
Charity begins at HOME!!!
Now, must you “try to insult” others? Can you not debate things in a “civil” matter?
Why should I, blessed with a genius IQ, endure and excel in all aspect of school/education (despite being extremely boring) and willing to work between 14-18 hours per day x seven (7) days per week, including holidays not earn more than an uneducated, dumb, lazy, apathetic person?
I get up every day at 4AM and go for it as if it was my last day (someday I will be right- lolol). Are you insinuating that I should help those that can’t or won’t do the same? I should “share” the wealth?
How do you suggest to “save lives”?
Love to hear you SOP to save the world…obviously…mine suck!!! I only do new drug development and mainly in the biotechnology field to find pharmaceutical related cures not yet available for illnesses and diseases. Really SUCKS!!! I wished I could do more….maybe you can shed some light on my pathetic life…
I await your inifinte WISDOM for an enlightened path for success, my ALMIGHTY SAVIOR….
The fact that you have more than you need (and certainly more than you’re worth) proves you are nothing more than a greedy, egotistical liar. Anything you’ve done for other people has only been to boost your own ego and help propagate the delusion that you’re a good person.
There are billions of people in this world suffering because of rich, greedy people. All time and resources wasted catering to fools like you could have been used to save SO many lives it’s unreal. But it’s ok, you helped out a few people here and there, so it’s all good in your eyes.
Billco and Neosapience: FYI… I was just doing a research on a book I am writing and “ran into” this website. I thought to help “someone” like they helped me when I arrived in the USA in 1985 at the age of 14 (my 15 is Nov) at MIT.
I left BACK home to the Netherlands in 2003 and then to Monte-Carlo, Monaco (tax incentive- lolol).
My greatest pride is my Brazilian ex-girlfriend I met in Boston. She was illiterate. I paid her tuition, her books and the University. Today she is a Federal Judge in Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil. THAT is what I understand! She in turn has “paid it forward” and her cousins etc. etc. are also attending University today. They came from the FAVELA (a Brazilian jargon for a ghetto).
Of course, I am off-topic!
That is what money can do!
Pay for my cousin in Portugal to get tutors and attend University at Oxford. He recently started a Doctorate program in Biochemistry.
Pay for my daughter’s best friend and her, in the IBO honors program, to attaend either Yale, Harvard or Princeton together.
Pay for my niece, that was a computer designer in the Netherlands to QUIT and dedicate herself to furthering her education. Now she is a dermatologist in the Netherlands.
Some people can NEVER achieve their dreams if someone doesn’t finance them. That is what I do! Find people (intelligent or not; genius or just normal) and finance their education!!!
I don’t buy them cars, planes or boats. I pay for a decent living while they go to school!
My Arnold’s List (NOT Schindler’s) has now on it 29 people that could NEVER have afforded to go to the University attending today or have already graduated.
The ones that have graduated have “paid it forward”…the ONLY requirement I ask of them.
EGO? You think so? You have never heard of me and frankly if I told you my name, you wouldn’t recognize it either. I am NOT a household name, by my choosing of course.
Guys…have a wonderful life. Hope all works out extremely well for you. I will use your comments in my book.
You have helped MORE than you will ever know.
Met Vriendelijke Groeten,
With Kind Regards,
Arnold
Yes Arnold, and with all these accomplishments you still find it in your heart to make time for trolling on internet forums. You’re the American Dream’s Dream, and I spiritually masturbate, ten times daily, to the very concept of your existence as a self-made demigod.
My issue with your presence here has nothing to do with your radiant awesomeness, my issue is that you are completely off-topic.
Just who are you trying to convince? I certainly do not care if you think you’re a loser or not, nor do I care if you have money. Having more than you need only proves how egotistical you are.
The most influential people to ever have lived, had almost nothing. Their lives were their own, they didn’t need to buy them, nor were they for sale.
I’ve felt more joy from giving someone the shirt off my back than I ever have from owning anything. I’m sure that’s something you’ll never understand.
Neosapience…
You are right! You are perfect! I am JUST a loser compared to you….
I ONLY have THREE Centurion cards: Asia, Europe and USA.
I ONLY have 27 homes around the world
I ONLY have 4 airplanes
I ONLY have 3 yachts
The interest on my money pays for ALL that… What a LOSER I am.
I ONLY get the BEST looking girlfriends
I ONLY have the BEST LOOKING cars
Oh almighty Neosapience…
If I STOP working right now, the dividends of my investments will keep me at the SAME stage.
I went to Universiteit van Leiden (the one that rejected Albert Einstein) at 12 for Math, Physics and Chemistry- MIT at 15 for Electrical and Computer Engineering double major and Harvard Medical School at 18.
I am a BOARD certified Liver/GI Transplant surgeon and Board Certified in Nuclear Medicine/Radiology
I have a PhD. in BioMedical Engineering
I have a PhD. in BioChemistry
I own a PRIVATE Generics and Bio-Generics (Follow-on Biologics) Pharmaceutical company (with ana area of interest in developing Transgenic Proteins through avians) – Total revenues in 200: Euros 3.9 billion!!!!
I am ONLY 36!!!!!
I am currently at Yale because my two (2) daughters are going here – One is 17 and one is 16!!!
Yep… I am a LOSER!!!
I’d tell you more about my LACK of Athletic accomplishments (World Championships), but then you would KNOW who I was.
Thank you for putting me straight!!! I will raise a statue in your honor!!!
Para QUE te voy a escribir si NO sabes leer?
You have been my inspiration!!!
Arnold
PS. Use your real name (at least – as a LOSER – I do)
Sorry, but there is no other way to interpret this sentence:
“Please read the following to begin your therapy:”
By stating that someone is in need of therapy, you are telling them you do not agree with what they feel and that they should change. It is insulting, arrogant and ignorant (as is almost everything else you say).
It’s curious to see you so seemingly upset by a person you think is insignificant. Do you really think that all of your exclamation points are going to make people agree with you? So far, you’ve said nothing that would make me think you’re anything more than an attention starved kid looking for a way to boost his ego.
If you were truly trying to help people, you would offer ideas, knowledge and assistance without expecting anything.
Wrong AGAIN!!!!! You interpreted that I TOLD him how he should feel!!! As far as I am concerned he can feel angry, happy, sad, depressed etc. etc. How does ‘his feelins’ change MY life for the better? I don’t even KNOW the guy!
You asked: “What have you done to earn any of these things from me?”
You HAVE to be kidding!!! Why would I even CARE who you are and how you feel? Life for ME is wonderful! I have NEVER met ANYONE I wanted to be his partner or even friend! Of course, if you met me, you’d wonder why I am so nice. In “reality” I try to “blend” in – you know go along to get along, although frankly I could care less about people!
I don’t know you and I don’t care to know you. I could care less today or tomorrow if you live or die. You are to me INSIGNIFICANT! There is NOTHING in my life that I need at this point. Maybe in the future, a kidney or something and if you are the donor…I’ll be nice to you…You know…”earn whatever from you” to make you feel better.
Make NO mistake NEOSAPIENCE [sic] – I posted to help others that may need that extra push…NOT to “gain” anything. I don’t need ANYONE!!! Life is GREAT!!!
A couple of things for you:
Vai tomar no CU seu VIADO!!!
Ga pak met de UIL spelen FLIKKER!!!
Where did I say that you shouldn’t tell Bill not to be angry? I said you shouldn’t tell people how they should feel, which is exactly what you did. I’m not going to bother answering your questions, you obviously have your own set of immutable answers and nothing anyone says is going to change your mind. So, I’m just going to leave you with this bit of wisdom –
The world does not need you, it is not obligated to make you happy or to return your favors.
The world does not have to listen to you, it does not have to care how you feel or respect what you think.
If you want to be needed, happy, honored, lauded, loved and respected, then you have to earn it.
What have you done to earn any of these things from me?
Dear Neosapience,
Ok….Could you and Bill, PLEASE, PLEASE point out WHERE I told Bill he shouldn’t be angry? I asked why so angry? Emphasis on “so” NOT angry.
He uses an immense amount of profanity on his web site, which of course he has every right to do so….but I was told during great English literature the following:
“Profanity is the weapon of the witlessâ€Â
“Profanity is the common crutch of the conversational cripple.â€Â
“When a man uses profanity to support an argument, it indicates that either the man or the argument is weak – probably bothâ€Â
“Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefullyâ€Â
Could all these great thinkers have been wrong? Things that make you go hmmmm……
Now, you jumped out and took Bill’s side. Great for you two. I am happy for you two.
Now, can I have your comment on Bill’s “rules of conduct” and why he is violating the SAME rules he “preaches”?
Or you also agree that he has a right to violate the same rules he established?
Just curious…..
By the way, a few questions on you Mr. Neosapience:
What do you consider an intelligent man?
What do you consider a successful man?
What has to happen in your life that would make you a successful man? (In case you weren’t already…I don’t know you, so my apologies if you already are. Just tell us what has happened then.)
What do you consider a happy person?
Would you consider yourself a happy person?
Inquiring minds want to know,
Arnold
Sorry Arnold, but Bill is right. Your enthusiasm is obviously driven by your ego, not a desire to help those around you. If you really cared about people, you’d know that anger isn’t a bad thing and you have no right to tell people how to feel. Bills blog is obviously an outlet for his anger, which is a type of therapy in itself. Being positive all the time is not only unrealistic, but forces your mind to bury fettered emotions in your subconscious, where they fester like a plague.
Yes Arnold, life is wonderful, just not all the time.
“Comment by Billco
2008-03-30 01:02:38
Could someone please just close this thread ? It’s finished! The points has been made. We don’t need trolls like Arnold polluting this conversation with his egobabble, it’s just human-made spam!”
Dear Bill,
My thought provoking comments stated above were NEVER meant to impress you, but rather to IMPRESS UPON you that “intelligence” has a plethora of facets.
Now, sometimes people are reminded of their “failures” by the successes of others and rather then becoming inspired, they become angry and frustrated. I feel for you Bill. I apologize! It was NEVER my intentions to arise those supra-negative feelings in you. Wished I could tell you more, but that would deprive you of MUCH, if not all, of the benefits you will receive when you make “this” discovery in your own way…..if and when you do.
Now, the word “troll” can be interpreted as something “good” or something “bad”. I won’t get into that…butttttttttttttttttttt…………………
What I find interesting Billy-boy, is that on your WEBPAGE, under “Rules of Conduct” (http://billsmind.com/about/) , you specifically write and I quote: “Personal attacks and harassment will NOT be tolerated and I reserve the right to edit or delete any content I deem worthless.”, but YET on this particular webpage you decided to ‘PERSONALLY ATTACK ME”, without knowing anything about me. This is called HYPOCRISY, Billy-boy!!!
Anyway, I read some of your “stuff” on billsmind…gave me the creeps. Why so angry? Life is WONDERFUL! Enjoy it!
I have taken the liberty to assist you in healing your soul. Please read the following to begin your therapy:
http://www.beyondintractability.org/essay/anger/
http://www.survivorsswindon.com/angry.htm
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=990DE6D7123BF93BA15756C0A9649C8B63
Have a great life (w/o anger).
You NEVER know…
Arnold
Could someone please just close this thread ? It’s finished! The points has been made. We don’t need trolls like Arnold polluting this conversation with his egobabble, it’s just human-made spam!
Sorry, I was a bit tired when I made that post and didn’t bother to elaborate (I also made a stupid grammatical error). Anyway, intelligence (or I.Q.) is measured by administering a non-biased test which is supposed to gauge an individuals raw mental abilities. These tests do not rely on learned or memorized data (such as language, math, etc…) and are thus highly accurate at determining a persons natural intelligence level.
Education is almost entirely done through memorization. Just because someone can recite every word from entire set of encyclopedias, does not make them intelligent (it just means they have a phenomenal memory). Some would argue that memory is part of intelligence. I would say that a great memory is not a requisite for genius, but it certainly couldn’t hurt.
So, as I was trying to say before, people that are smart but poorly educated tend to make huge mistakes that often result in tragedy. Stupid people that are highly educated aren’t usually in a position to cause such catastrophic problems and thus are less dangerous.
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2008-02-05 10:57:41
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Intelligence and education are 2 different things. A smart person with no education is actually be more dangerous than a stupid person with no education.”
Sorry…but I fail to see how you arrived to this conclusion and I am humble enough to realize that there is NO way I can guess what you were thinking when you wrote this or what experiments you may have conducted.
Could you please elaborate…???
PS. To others inclined to “read Neosapience mind or thought”…please do NOT! I welcome YOUR own thoughts and explanation, but let HIM and HIM alone, explain what he meant. Thank you for your understanding
Jonge, ik ben een Nederlander ook!!! We schrijven en spreken Engels (meestal) beter dan iedereen, met uitzondering van de Engelse, natuurlijk)
There are lots of facets in intelligence. Some of us went to college at an early age (thanks to a great Dutch education – VWO) and attended MIT, Harvard (Medical School) etc. etc. Got our degrees. Took IQ tests and SCORED HIGHER than Mr. Langan. Took the Putnam tests and wiped the floor with the rest. How intelligent? It doesn’t matter if you can’t produce wealth and peace of mind! (In my humble opinion). You have to be able to use this GREAT intelligence to develop your:
1.) EQ (intrapersonal) – control your emotions – The Dutch are as cool as ICE – lolol
2.) SQ (interpersonal) – I REALLY had to work on this one. Even today it’s a hard task to get along with IDIOTS & EVIL people. Normal people are OK, but the world is infested with BAD OPPORTUNISTIC PEOPLE! Give you an example: I met with THREE (3) Panamanian men in Rotterdam in order to bring them to our manufacturing facilities so they can see it. I was going to do business with them (emphasis on WAS). There we park in a public parking and then walk to the industrial section. The ones that come first, out of courtesy to Mommies and others that THIS particular day (and any day) are late for any reason, park the farthest away, so the ones that are running late have less time to walk to the offices and thus even out the score. The FIRST thing these three Panamanian men yell out: “Que come-mierda son estos Holandeses! Yo llegaria aqui siempre a las 8 menos 5.” In other words, they (these 3) ONLY see the MALICE in things. They have NO consideration whatsoever with a Mommy that her kid has a 104 fever and she had to take him to the doctor or someone that this morning has a flat-tire etc. etc. Now, I am NOT saying that ALL Panamanians are like these “gentlemen”, but it is amazing that they ALL agree with each other and even when I explained it to him AFTER the fact, they AUGMENTED their lists of “COME-MIERDAS” to include moi! Go figure… As my Spanish teach once said: “Para que les vas a escribir si NO saben leer.” Sadly, a Cuban friend of mine living in Holland for over 40 years and teaching at one of our fine Universities said to me: “During a summer, I visited my agnate family who had a pig farm, the first couple of days my nose wanted to quit on me, but after a few weeks I hardly noticed the smell!” That’s all he had to say, because: “Een goede verstaander heeft maar een half woord nodig!”
3.) Bodily-Kinesthetic Q – Working out, participating in sports etc. etc.
4.) Verbal-Linguistic Q – I speak fluently: Nederlands, English, Deutsch, Italiano, le français, Português, Español, Русский язык, 中國人, 日本人〔日本語〕 – Any questions…??????
5.) Logical-Mathematical Q,
6.) Naturalistic Q,
7.) Spatial Q,
8.) Existential Q
9.) and finally, the one I am lacking the MOST, Musical Q. I couldn’t sing or understand music..even if my LIFE depended on it – lolol – but I took private Piano classes, private singing classes etc. etc. in order to improve this lagging Q.
So, intelligence is NOT just numbers (my forte), but also your ability and WILLINGNESS to ROUND yourself and do it better than anyone else.
I lift weights constantly (I look like a bouncer too – lmao), but I am REFINED! I took cooking classes in France and Italy. I attended Wine Schools with an emphasis in Champagne (the region and the bubbly).
I earn in excess of Euros 300 Million a year – (almost) TAX FREE (good old Dutch system, actually the companies EARN this; BV -> NV -> SA; bearer shares). All armed with a dozen computers and NO employees!!! (No whistleblowers allowed).
I attend conferences ALL over the world. Mainly Asia and Europe. Going to the USA is REALLY a PAIN in the ASS…even for a white European. Those guys at ICE have NO sense of humor. Let’s face it…with all the money, why subject myself to abuse or even worse…??? The GREAT thing about American Entrepreneurs is that they UNDERSTAND and can do business with you WITHOUT you having to go to the USA to meet with them. This is JUST GREAT!!!
Anyway, so…what is intelligence?
I guess we all have our definition…just that tomorrow, I will be sipping Pina Colada in Rio do Janeiro with four Brazilian POPOZUDAS not even blinking or worrying about money….at the age of 36!!! Hey…I don’t even come close to THESE MASTERS: http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/10/XFXI.html
They are younger and RICHER. I am just a humble and grateful Dutch guy that has everything to thank to an INCREDIBLE Dutch education and a PRICELESS American College/University system.
Thanks to both.
Met Vriendelijke Groeten,
With Kind Regards,
The One and Only (just kidding….)
Advancing humanity is an honor, not a burden.
And on top of that, you have no clue how hard he worked or how honest he is.
Personally, I don’t care what anyone does with their life, so long as they don’t infringe on other peoples rights. But if you’re a selfish egomaniac, don’t expect any help from me.
Just because someone was gifted with extraordinary mental capacities does not mean that the burden of advancing humanity is on their shoulders.
And on top of that, I can’t believe anyone would complain about a man putting in 20 years of hard, honest work.
John P.
my only question is if that guys is so much smarter than everyone, including einstien, what good has he done with that?
i have not heard of 1 thing he has invented or a theory that helps humanity at all, so it seems all that intelligence was wasted throwing people out of bars
He is very smart and intellect. I thing that we have to keep in mind that person become smart through knowledge. Like christ mention, size does matter in a intellectual way. He has a large brain, therefore his brain capacity can hold more information than someone with a smaller brain. He is an autodidact and his ability to retain more info than an average person has made him very smart.
Postulate 1:
The smartest man in the world is dumber than you think.
Postulate 2:
Obfuscation in language is designed to veil stupidity, or at least relative stupidity, or to hide a lack of real understanding on a subject.
Postulate 3:
A smart man says it simply, but no simpler. For example:
Statement 1:
I walked briskly to the store to see my friends, and found that the store was closed, so I sat and thought for a while.
Statement 2:
That being which I reflexively perceive as myself on the basis of some unknown anchor that tied my recognition of my self as being consistent with that self, perambulated at a rate that exceeds in velocity a pace considered dragging, towards a land-use activity which contains a crystallization of items for sale, to see those other selves that that aforementioned being, in said being’s mental framework, perceive as being less hostile to aforementioned being than enemies and somewhat convivial, and exposed through the interface between matter and my mind that the place of crystallized sale-items was, not altogether open, so herein thrice before referenced being rested with said being’s (herein known as “I”) body supported by the buttocks or thighs as opposed to the perambulation I had been previously engaged in, and I instigated my neurons to fire more quickly in my pre-frontal cortex.
This guy is fooling himself, and sadly many others it seems. I read his works on http://www.ctmu.org/ and a number of points are in order:
Firstly, no new ideas appear to be here, as far as I can tell. His whole introductory discussion really is just a primer on the scientific method, but dressed up using words that obfuscate the method rather than illuminate it; with the apparent aim of appearing either as a:
1. New idea altogether
2. Super intelligent breakthrough
My gut impression is that this is a lot like L Ron Hubbard’s mad writings.
Secondly, his writings are blatantly false in parts. Unless you have a strong grounding in science, maths and statistics, and even can be bothered, you will not likely pick up the errors in his writings. I quote:
“In contrast, the CTMU deals directly with the outstanding paradoxes and fundamental interrelationship of mathematics and physics”.
For starters, there is no “intrinsic” fundamental interrelationship between mathematics and physics. The fact that anyone (you or I, or Chris, for example) can draw such an interrelationship is because, as he acknowledges, these abstractions or models of reality are in fact such; and any interrelationship between the two can necessarily and arbitrarily be drawn. However, it is equally likely for anyone to arbitrarily draw attention to the lack of such interrelationships, either in part or in whole to any subset combination of any of these two discipline’s areas of sub-specialization.
His “metatheory”, or theory of theories, goes on (again in obfuscating scatterbrain steps) to point out how the “….theory of information, while extending the information concept to incorporate reflexive self-processing in order to achieve an intrinsic (self-contained) description of reality.” [Abstract, The Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe: A New Kind of Reality Theory]
Neil Finn said the same thing on the Crowded House album “Woodface” when he sang “colour is its own reward”. In other words, this is nothing more than a tautology dressed up to appear as a theory. Reflexive self-processing in order to achieve an intrinsic description of reality? We already have this! A rock is intrinsically and reflexively self-processing, and manages to describe itself. However, no one has a theory of a rock, as it is completely self-describing. Sure, we have words to describe any given instance of a rock, such as “hard”, “smooth”, or “rough”, or “crumbles when you throw it”, and of course these language constructs used to describe any given rock are of necessity limited. And of course, what is a rock, really? I mean, past any descriptors and chemical models (which contain descriptors themselves, right down to the boson, meson or quark), but this abstract is itself able to be reduced to nothing more than a series of tautological statements that cannot (within itself) be proved or disproved.
The paper also fails to acknowledge its own existence in the mind-matter duality postulated within; as such, it attempts to self-define as being in an upper-level vector presiding down upon the duality, and hence immune from either its “undecidability” constraint or its “uncertainty” state. Godel showed this last century, and he does not even address or acknowledge this!
Anyway, this whole point he makes on the mind-matter duality is moot; at least to some mundane variety genius like me who ranks like an imbecil when standing in the shadow of the self-proclaimed and non-validated nor peer-reviewed “genius” like CL, who at least knows that it is moot, as neither can mind be separated from matter nor can it ever be shown by any construct or any mind that in fact they are separate.