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  1. I think there definitely suolhd have been more Christian Bale in the movie, but at the same time, the story didn’t need it. Everything about that storyline was amazing. I think it actually makes it better to focus on the Joker’s points and Dent’s fall from grace, and that whole thing was just SO. INCREDIBLY. POETIC. But I’m still sad at less Batman/Wayne. =(The disappearing pencil trick was my favorite scene. I have a pretty sick sense of humor, but I thought it went into his eye socket and my friend thought the Joker used the guy’s head to hammer it into the table. Either way, OUCH. I like the fact that Batman has a different voice, for storyline reasons, but I think it bordered on too much in this film. It didn’t bother me in the first one, though, so, I dunno. I just know that I can’t do that without sounding like an idiot. The catwoman thing–someone pointed it out to me, and I think it’s a perfect setup. I’d love to see how the Nolans wrote it, if they do, and also I think the more hard-core fans deserve better than Halle Barry’s (even though I myself had no problems with it). I think it’s also going to be interesting to see if the “villains” might hint that the Joker is still working in the background. I think they are going to get some Batgirl- or Catwoman-type thing going on in the next film, not necessarily because they killed off the Love Interest but because they killed off the female lead. But poor Bruce, I wanted to hug him when Rachel died. =( And Dent, too, when he was screaming “NO, NO, YOU’RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SAVE MEEEE” =C oh sadfaces.I think, possibly because I just reread American Gods this summer, but I think that my favorite bit of poetry in the film is Dent’s coin. As the White Knight he’s cheating, he’s making his own luck, but he’s doing good. Then–I’m still kind of lost as to what happens to him with the Joker in the hospital, because every time the Joker walked on I was just toally entranced by how silly he was–he gives in to chaos because its fair, and though his coin is still double-headed, there’s the light side, and the dark side. And the dark side, he shoots Batman. The light side, he doesn’t shoot himself. And the coin lands light side up for Gordon’s son, though whether that’s supposed to mean “he would have lived” or “Batman just saved his ass”, I’m not sure. But I still think it’s absolutely brilliantly beautiful.

  2. OK listen. The old joker was way better. I don’t care that his make up wasn’t realistic or anything like that but he was more creative. He also laughed a lot more than the new one. Now why couldn’t they make the new joker laugh more? Find more amusment out of things. That would’ve been much better.

  3. I think Nolans Joker looks more realistic,it makes perfect sense to give the Joker a glasgow smile to give him the appearance of a permanent sadistic smile and makes it more believable that this character could exist in todays world.

  4. I’m so excited that the movie is just around the corner. I think Heath Ledger’s take on the Joker is going to be really wicked. Jack is Jack, but this isn’t the Shining. The younger generation need someone they can relate to and I think that the producers made an excellent choice.

  5. So for anyone who doesn’t already own it and is at ALL a fan of comics, comic book movies, graphic novels, hell, the strange and bizarre in general: The Dark Knight Returns graphic novel is a MUST own item. I’m an oldschool comic geek, and if you asked me what three comics you had to read in your lifetime, if any, this would be on the list without a doubt. The art is brilliantly dark, the characters twisted, and anyone in the (geeky) know will tell you it changed the comic industry forever. So, before or after you see the movie, BUY that graphic novel. In the great words of Stan Lee: ‘nuf said.

  6. @MG
    Yeah, Schumacher did a fun (emphasis on fun, as in Looney Tunes fun) job when he did the one with Jim Carrey and Val Kilmer, but he totally LOST IT after that. Seriously overboard. If I was ever a fan of any hero, it’s Batman — but he’s always been a Dark character in my head, so I’m really happy with the new movies!

    @Derek & Jake
    Yeah, the description is damn vivid. Makes me wonder how far they’ll go in this movie with regards to a scary-factor.

    They’ve mentioned that the character inspiration for this Joker is along the lines of Alex DeLarge from a Clockwork Orange. Which is getting me even more excited as that’s one of my favorite movies of all time.

  7. Wow that info on the Glasgow smile was pretty intense. I wasn’t aware of the upcoming movie (but I’m not a huge movie buff anyways). I’d be pretty creeped out by a guy looking like that meeting me in an alley!

  8. I’m not saying that Jack Nicholson wasn’t a brilliant Joker — he fit in perfectly with the fantasty-cartoon element of Burton’s movies. And that cartoon element was fun for a while. Then it got kind of tired. Then all hero movies after it mimicked the same toony style.

    Those were my thoughts too. I didn’t want to short Jack for a job well done, but with Bale’s new Batman, things are darker and more realistic now. I was never huge into Batman, and adding in those corny actors like Arnie in that last one didn’t help much either.

    But with the new one.. I really REALLY dug it.. I can’t wait :)

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