Islamic clerics never cease to amaze me with their dazzling intellect and incredible application of truly dizzying logic. Here we have an interview from some TV station in the Middle East where a reporter (and I use that term very loosly) has a cleic explaining the proper ways to beat your wife (or wives as the case may be)!
I’ve captioned all of the content below, because after you watch this video you are probably going to need to read it again since you aren’t going to believe your eyes the first time around.
Reporter: Would you believe that the European women in our times yearns for a husband who would be like a guardian to her. I would like to provide the viewers with some statistics.
90% of British women do not want to marry a weak man, who sits down and cries the moment there is a problem. They say: No, such a man looks more like a woman. We want a manly man.
Wife beating is a serious accusation (leveled against Islam). Let us examine this matter bit by bit.
Cleric: Allah honored wives by instating the punishment of beatings.
Reporter: Honored them with beatings? How is this possible?!
Cleric: The Prophet Muhammad said: “Don’t beat her in the face, and do not make her ugly.
See how she is honored? If the husband beats his wife, he must not beat her in the face!”
Even when he beats her, he must not curse her. This is incredible! He beats her in order to discipline her. In addition, there must not be more than ten beatings, and he must not break her bones, injure her, break her teeth, or poke her in the eye. There is a beating etiquette. If he beats to discipline her, he must not raise his hand high. He must beat her from chest level.
All these things honor the woman!
She is in need of discipline! How should the husband discipline her? Through admonishment. If she is not deterred, he should refuse to share the bed with her. If she is not repentant, he should beat her, but there are rules to the beating.
It is forbidden to beat her in the face or make her ugly.
When you beat her you must not curse her.
Islam forbids this.Reporter: With what should he beat her? With his bare hand? With a rod?
Cleric: If he beats her, the beatings should not be hard, so that they do not leave a mark.
He can beat her with a short rod. He must avoid beating her in the face or in places in the head where it hurts.
The beatings should be on the body and should not come one right after the other. These are all choices made during the process, but beatings are allowed only as a last resort.
The honoring of the wife in Islam is also evident in the fact that the punishment of beating is permissible in one case only: when she refuses to sleep with him.
Reporter: When she refuses to sleep with him?
Cleric: Yes, because where else could the husband go? He wants her, but she refuses. He should begin with admonishment and threats…
Reporter: Allow me to repeat this. A man cannot beat his wife… over food or drink.
Cleric: Beatings are permitted only in this case, which the husband cannot do without.
So, what do you think? Do all of you non-muslim women YEARN for a man who will beat you and instill some discipline in you? And by “discipline”, of course, I mean sexual desire – because the only time it’s acceptable to beat a woman is when she doesn’t want to have sex.
I mean personally I have found that the best way to warm a girl up to amorous advances is with a little punching bag foreplay, but I’m sure you already knew that, right?
Well this is really old but I’m still gonna write something about it. First off people stop convincing everyone against Islam, you are too weak to ruin our Emaaan (faith) Men aren’t allowed to beat women. If they do so they will be punished severely on the day of judgment.. Secondly, The scholars who spread rubbish about Islam are all Fake trying to ruin it for us. And you sensless people believe them, People, when Allah clearly gave you the Qur’an to know what’s wrong what’s right, why do you still listen to these fake scholars, Islam is a religion of Love and Harmony. Islam means Peace. You all will be punished who say wrong about Islam and our Qur’an. It’s for the humans not just the Muslims.
This is satire…right?
In my view ISLAM does not allow wife beating as per QURAN.It is a misjudgement by our ancient and traditional scholars who tried to comprehend HOLY QURAN with closed minds.I as Muslim don’t support wife beating.For further research please visit QURAN434.com
For those of you who are saying wrong thing about Islam is better you seek forgiveness from God before God inflict His punishment in you, Islam is a religion of peace and the qurian is our guardian it teaches us how to good life without trangression. The issue of beaten women or other way to deal with your wife is well stated in the holy qurian, if want to know all this move closer to the Islamic scholars. This is better for you rather than written jaggon about religion of God.
Sorry Muhammed, but your comment added zero value. What the “scholars” say is exactly what is being debated. Different ones say exactly opposite things. All you are saying is that people should listen to YOUR scholars. But what about the other ones who say women should be beaten?
Do you, or do you not support beating women? That is the ONLY comment you should be making.
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No In Islam you dont beat the wife because she refuses to have sex,the light beating as the sheikh described in the video is if she trangresses as in she tries to corrupt her family and the care she has on her children.It is the husbands responsibility to take care of his family and if the wife brings immorality he should first admonish her(meaning ignore her in bed,ignore her when she needs to conversate with him then she will feel bad of what she did) but if she continues he can beat her lightly like the shiekh said not raising his hand so high to beat her and not leaving marks on her body.see there are steps hello,If her husband beats her for no reason whatsoever then she has a right to divorce him.You people are so narrowminded its not about sex,sheesh.There are rules to in such cases but God knows best,I dont see anything wrong with what the shiekh said..maybe the other uneducated dude across from him.
Pls dont condemn Islam just because u THINK u have understood perfectly after watching a video or 2. Your hatred or maybe ur ignorance has clouded ur rationality.Quran is sent down as a rule for everyone(supposedly), in THIS world. Instead of looking at the rules of beating from ur point of view,we should look at it frm ALL angles.
“Thus, if seen in the correct perspective, the Qur’an has, in fact, hindered the man from resorting to physical force at the time when he is most likely to do so.”
Once I beat my puppy islamic way,I just gave her few taps on her buttvery softly and smoothly whithout hurting and making marks in the face and importand parts of body,after that she got very insulted and sad ,she didn’t want to eat and come close to me for some days,,are the feeling of muslim women less than the feelings of dogs ? aren’t muslim women have category in human life ? are the muslim women as tools to be used in the kitchen and bed ?,then what the hell is islam,shame on this evil faith,
I’m a Muslim women but I dont believe that in Islam getting beaten up,i mean women should be getting respect always at the end only women can give birth not men’s.
@2 Mac McDowell:
Please considerate before you make a comment. If you don’t know about Islam, please don’t make abusive statement? Islam is a peaceful faith. I’m a Moslem and we aren’t hate about American or Christian. If you think that you are better than us, please show me that you have a pretty words in your heart
@John P:
this is a sensitive issue, I hope you have knowledge balancing for moderating this topic
The facts on the ground can’t be denied and ignored,when you say islam is a peaceful faith but it’s not !!
We Christians burned people alive and did horrible torture as did American Indians and nearly all Religions and cultures BUT..Islam, once a Peaceful religion with respect for at least some diversity has been for the last 60 or so increasingly violent and intolerant. “Peaceful Muslims” claim that current atrocities are the actions of a few “Extremists” and don’t represent true Islam..BULL SHIT!!!!!! You Muslims who love god and respect human life wake the hell up..Islam is the leading PROBLEM in the whole world..Go ahead and hate American policies and or politicians and demonize them and us..all the while Islam spreads like a disease. It is being spread just like Nazism or Communism..Find poor and ignorant people and teach them that all their problems are caused by the Jews and America. In the case of Communists it was America and Capitalists. Then you kill opposition in these places and spend hundreds of millions of Dollars through the “Council on Islamic Relations” to propagandize Islam and pretend you are tolerant as a whole. Most non-American and some American Muslims would distroy America and Israel if they had the power. While both America and Israel have the power to destroy most Muslims in the world but we don’t.
Have a nice day..I love all people but I am tired of my country having to apologize to the world daily while we feed and clothe a good portion of it…now I’m rambling…
Sorry Mac, but I see it differently.
For a Christian to be asserting to Muslims that THEIR religion is causing all of the world’s woes is hypocritical. You admitted several atrocities and then with one sweeping BUT attempted to erase them all.
All religions which believe in a supreme deity who demands that they be treated as the ONLY true God are inherently evil and will absolutely torture and kill people who refuse to believe as they do. This has been the way since the beginning of humanity.
If you really want to get rid of the struggle, just forget about all religion and focus on the human struggle.
John P.
Honor a woman with a beating and be afraid to go to sleep! She might pound the crap out of you!
i think you got the wrong idea about why women should be beaten. Just because she does not want to have sex with her husband, her husband can simply beat her..No. There are few steps that her husband must follow before taking physical action towards her. You should ask other Muslims in your area about it..hope you can check your info’ in details before making any assumption based on a video interview..
So, it is all about sex :) Have sex or get beaten.
I’m pretty sure this is the same “logic” that gave us….
What do you do with witches? You buuuuurn them!
What do you burn apart from witches? Wood!
What does wood do in water? It floats…
What else floats in water? A DUCK!
So How do you know if she is a witch?
If she weighs the same as a duck, she must be made of wood, and therefore……
A WITCH!
#justsayin
Statements like this make my brain go blank for a few seconds as it tries it’s hardest to find some logical connection or rational. This level of …I don’t even know what to call it…but it causes a short some where in my head.
I’m gonna brag on myself and say that I am capable of some truely epic feats when it comes to taking leaps in logic or using the most tenuous connect to cobble together a theory or agruement when it pleases me, but even with all my warped and twisty imagination I cannot manage the connection between honoring someone and beating them for not providing sex. In fact, the first word that comes to mind is rape.
As a non-muslim woman in an equal relationship with a non-wussy man, I declare B.S.
Well said Dee.
If I were to try and play Devil’s advocate (and by the way you probably need to be the Devil to do that here…), the twisted logic that says that a man is “honoring” a woman would be as follows:
God has ordained me, as a man, with power over women. Not just one, but ALL! The fact that I have a penis makes me genetically superior to all people who lack one. Once you come to accept that fact, you should be honored that I have chosen YOU as the one whom I will focus all of my sex upon. Now, the only reason I would beat you would be to have sex with you. If I didn’t want to have sex with you, I would just leave you alone.
So again, you should be HONORED that I want to endow you with the seed of my loins. Beatings are just an occasional reminder of how lucky you are too be with me.
How’d I do?
John P.
This “honors the woman”. What a load of ****. This simply allows men to control women, to treat them worse than second-class citizens, worse than chattel. Only “short rods”!!! How short exactly?
if you look at it objectively, it’s quite a respect for the woman that she wont have to suffer injuries. i just see it very shallow that you can beat her if she doesn’t want to have sex. now that’s just weird.
@natalie: hahahahha i agree with terroare. but not so much. hahahahahha!!
Oh dear… hand…. bang….keyboard. It is men like this that give Islam a bad name. Unfortunately there are many western men like that as well, that think it is their god given right to beat up a woman.
The problem lies in how to educate women that no one has a right to do this to them, even if they do lay in the same bed together.
Terroare -i was rather surprised at your comment. What do you mean by some women deserve a punch in the face or ask for it.
If she is not deterred, he should refuse to share the bed with her.
That right there is nothing but laughable.
Seriously – this shit is weird. Just weird. Do the real, peaceful, actual Muslims honestly think this way? Is it really – for real – in the Koran? I have SUCH a different image in my mind of the ‘true Muslim’, you know?
no they dont. People need to learn the true translation(s) and the true Islam before accusations or and because this is in arabic, the translations to english are harder, and alot of things where left out. it accually means share the same bed but he is not to face her. however, no woman should be beat for any reason, in my opinion. Just like the Bible, the Qur’an is interpreted differently even amoung muslims.
You know there are some woman who deserve a punch in the face, or woman who asks for it, they have a fetish. But in a normal relationship there is no need for actions like these.